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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 11 October 2019 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

There's a fine line between suble nods and winks and STGH though.  I wouldn't write it off just yet based on those previews.  Like film trailers they serve a specific purpose and their editing may be skewed towards attracting a wider audience other than their primary demographic.   I fully expected it would be presented as 'TNG 2' in promos.

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Honestly, I’m not sure what people are seeing when they say Star Trek’s Greatest Hits. It appears to me that Picard visits some people /before/ he takes on his mission. That’s standard cameo fare.

The only character I’m confused about is Seven of Nine, because she is getting featured a lot in the trailer and being a former Borg would tie in with Hugh. So I feel like she’s either going to play a major role throughout the season or die spectacularly in the first episode. 
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Yeah, nostalgia sells right now.  Like crazy.  For all we know, we've seen 90% of the TNG cameos in the trailers.  Stewart has said repeatedly in interviews that if this was going to be a TNG reunion he wouldn't have done it.  He apparently turned them down multiple times and agreed to do it only after reading a fairly extensive treatment that caught his attention as being something new.
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 Steve De Young wrote:
Yeah, nostalgia sells right now.  Like crazy.  For all we know, we've seen 90% of the TNG cameos in the trailers.  Stewart has said repeatedly in interviews that if this was going to be a TNG reunion he wouldn't have done it.  He apparently turned them down multiple times and agreed to do it only after reading a fairly extensive treatment that caught his attention as being something new.

That's one aspect that got my attention when this was announced.  On the flip side it's also well noted that Stewart (or if you believe some accounts, his agent) put pressure on the TNG writers to change the character into more of an action hero protagonist which IMO diminished the character and hurt the franchise.   PICARD looks to be a return to a more thoughtful and contemplative take on the character -- perhaps to acknowledge and atone for the previous hot messes like NEMESIS**.  

The other thing is we really haven't had this kind of longer form storytelling with these characters before, save for Worf on DS9.  We've been told these 10 episodes are going to be like 10 interconnected films.   If even half of these episodes are duds then we are still heads and tails ahead of the entirety of the TNG film era, which -- and I'm being generous here -- had five kicks at the can and produced maybe one decent film and one that was borderline passable.   There never was a happy medium for TNG as it always seemed to be 1.5 hours of story jammed into a rushed hour or padded out to 2 hours with uneven results.   Feature film format didn't seem to work either.   It'll be interesting to see what happens when things are allowed to relax and breathe a little and not be constrained by do-or-die box office performance.


**Not to mention our previous last glimpse of the TNG era was the final episode of ENTERPRISE -- which many feel was a cheat that undercut a key Riker development episode in addition to being a slap in the face to fans of ENT by relegating it's characters into holodeck afterthoughts (on their swansong, no less).


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First glimpse of Picard's Admiral uniform:


Meh...  A little too busy for my tastes and a few too many weird angles.
(Mind you, most of the TNG admiral uniforms had these same motifs)

I can see where they were going for a TNG esthetic but it seems like a step backwards from the FIRST CONTACT 'grey tops'.

Definitly not the worst STAR TREK uniform I've ever seen though.  Hopefully it looks better on Patrick Stewart than it does on that mannequin.
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PICARD premiere is coming up on us fast (I'm hearing Jan 23) and I haven't heard a peep lately other than a months-old trailer and a couple of tow-the-line interviews with Stewart.   Kudos to the production and marketing teams keeping a tight lid on any leaks.  
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It appears PICARD has already been renewed for a second season a month before the first season even airs!   

Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but I do wonder what metrics they base these early renewals on (test audience reaction, number of All Access subscriptions since the series announcement, or perhaps the general tenor in the press?).   Maybe the renewal was already a done deal with the first and announced later so there's something keeping the porch light on in the run up to the premiere.   As previously noted they've kept a pretty tight lid on leaks, both in terms of on set photos and in general script detials.

One month to go!
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The more I read about it, the less I want to watch it. That last Variety article seems to go to great pains to make sure we know that ST:P is definitely not a sequel to TNG. The TNG crew cameos were all shot after the first six episodes were in the can.

The renewal notice is a last ditch attempt to make it seem like it's not going to suck. "See, we wouldn't renew it unless it was awesome!" Uh huh.

Why do people keep hiring Kurtzman?
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The renewal notice is a last ditch attempt to make it seem like it's not
going to suck. "See, we wouldn't renew it unless it was awesome!" Uh
huh.

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The renewal notice is so they can officially get the tax credits that
California approved for the production last December.

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 QUOTE:
The renewal notice is a last ditch attempt to make it seem like
it's not going to suck. "See, we wouldn't renew it unless it was
awesome!" Uh huh.


Riiiight....because a network is going to invest in a whole second
season to trick people; not because they’re seeing something(s) ahead
of the premiere that would justify the expense.
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 QUOTE:

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The renewal notice is a last ditch attempt to make it seem
like it's not going to suck. "See, we wouldn't renew it unless it was awesome!"

Uh huh.Riiiight....because a network is going to invest in a whole second
season to trick people; not because they’re seeing something(s) ahead of the
premiere that would justify the expense.

If CBS was willing to renew DISCOVERY twice, develop a Georgiou spin-off,
and even start talk of a Pike spin-off all so they wouldn't have to admit that
their agenda-driven series DISCOVERY was a failure, then of course they'd be
willing to renew PICARD early in order to fool the audience into thinking it was
good.

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Is Discovery a failure? Please explain!
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That was a heavy dose of sarcasm aimed toward a set of YouTube
channels and websites that have a particular disdain for DISCOVERY
and come up with various conspiracy theories surrounding it.
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