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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 23 July 2018 at 10:49pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The man said things ten years ago, apologized for them
and deleted them and was soon hired by Disney.

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I think there are two stories being mixed here. Up
thread someone said he apologized years ago, but the
only story I could find on that was a blog article on
comic characters and sex. He deleted that blog and
apologized for that years ago. I have yet to see any
story of these tweets being an issue years ago and
being deleted. He deleted 10 thousand tweets just when
the tweets started popping up over this past weekend.

So the story as I understand it is:

- He said things about Trump
- Past tweets start showing up on Mike Cernovich's
twitter
- Gunn accidentally tweets a search for a time period
of his tweets (he should have put it in the search
field)
- Gunn deletes 10k past tweet
- Over the next few days, other people in Hollywood
start deleting old tweets
- Now Rick and Morty creator Dan Harmon closes his
twitter after and old short film he did where he was
rapping a (fake) baby after drugging the babies father
resurfaces.
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Posted: 23 July 2018 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Actually, Cernovich, who is essentially a convicted rapist and completely despicable human being, is targeting Trump critics by digging up dirt on them.  These old tweets didn't magically appear on his Twitter.  He went to dig up dirt on Gunn, found this stuff, and used it to get him fired.

And Disney basically gave in to some more folks from the alt-right.  Which now has massive numbers of celebrities deleting social media accounts rather than face future extortion if something they say now becomes a firing offense in a decade.

So, where are all of the free speech activists on the right all of a sudden?  Oh, that's right.  They have no principles, they just back their own team.
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Posted: 23 July 2018 at 11:09pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

That is what I do when I see someone else's post
I don't like. I don't threaten them.
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If you're implying that I threatened you, I didn't.  That feeling you felt is how all those celebrities feel, worrying about what they've posted online and how it might come back to haunt them.  

But it sounds to me like you agree with me that Cernovich's behavior, of trying to destroy a person's career over a political disagreement, is completely out of line.  So that's progress in this discussion at least.
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Posted: 23 July 2018 at 11:53pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Disney's decision was way too fast.

Forgiving people's past mistakes isn't the christian thing to do nowadays ?

If bad taste can kill your career, we are going to face a lot of "safe movies" in Hollywood in the coming years. Well, maybe that will give more power to independant cinema.
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People say shocking, outrageous, stupid things all the time, sometimes for attention, sometimes for effect, sometimes in the heat of an argument. From the little boy who says "pussy" at dinner table to the college professor who blames "all men" for all evil. You can roll your eyes and move on, you can be genuinely offended and avoid them (or their work), but unless they're truly putting people in danger they should be able to keep their jobs.
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Posted: 24 July 2018 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

It has been pointed out that the most incriminating
thing is his association with a man named Huston
Huddleston.

{Huston Huddleston posted this video on my Facebook
page with the note “I thought you’d appreciate this.”
My response: “Appreciate it?!! I just **** all over my
own face!!”}

Huddleston is in the Hollywood circles, was convicted
of possessing child pornography and sentenced to time
served, (63 days), given three-years probation. He was
arrested when attempting to hire or coerce a minor to
participate in child porn.





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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 24 July 2018 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

It has been pointed out that the most incriminating  thing is his association with a man named Huston  Huddleston.

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Don’t start going all QAnon on us, Thomas.
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Posted: 24 July 2018 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

"...start...?"

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"...start...?" 

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Ha! I was just /really/ confused about how this thread shifted from “Gunn got fired for make a bunch of shitty edgelord jokes nine years ago” to “Gunn got fired for hinting at his secret pedophile proclivities” in one post.
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Posted: 24 July 2018 at 4:13pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

So, should Disney keep hiring Tim Allen?  Should they have hired him in the first place? Felony criminal record. Is this less bad than some jokes?
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Tim Allen served his time. So did Victor Salva for that matter. Although some Disney critics were saying that it wasn’t that Disney couldn’t employ him, but that he shouldn’t be allowed in productions with young actors.
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Just to be clear, I'm not arguing that Disney should not have hired Tim Allen.  As you say, he served his time.  Gunn likewise has made good on his attempts at more acceptable behavior.  I bring it up because Allen's offence was serious enough that he was facing life imprisonment, and yet managed an admirable turn around. It's not possible to "serve time" for jokes. (Joke Jail!) And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Twitter even gave him a "time out"?  If I'm right, he didn't even violate the terms of service of the platform.  I'm sensing a spectacular level of hypocrisy in firing him.  

I don't think we are trying to elect Gunn president or make him an astronaut.  The historical pattern of behavior I expect from artists is rather different than from those who have the power to destroy the planet or need sterling math skills and iron temperment.


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