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David Miller
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Posted: 21 July 2018 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Fabrice, I've read that some employers demand social media and even personal email passwords as a condition of hiring, but I've never come close to working someplace so inhospitable, so I don't know if it's true or urban legend.

Now that 24 hours has passed -- hey, remember when Trump got on stage with Putin and said he took Putin's word over US intelligence? That was Monday. -- I'm wondering if other internal factors contributed, considering how swiftly and decisively it all played out.

The silence from almost all of Gunn's Marvel stablemates (aside from Dave Bautista) is no doubt wise, and perhaps mandated, but extremely uncharacteristic of creatives suddenly being stripped of a treasured collaborator with whom they anticipated an ongoing relationship.

Maybe fast and decisive is just Marvel Studios's MO; after all, nobody realized they did re-shoots on Thor Ragnarok, while over at the Star Wars unit the agony was protracted and public. Is this the first actual controversy Marvel Studios has had to weather?

I wonder if the convenience of timing may have nudged things -- there's plenty of time to replace Gunn and reorganize and still make a Spring 2020 release for GotG3, and better still hiring a new director could relieve Disney of some expensive third film contractual obligations.
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I like GOTG.

I like what James Gunn did with the movies.

But I can't find any way to defend him on those tweets.

I like to think they no longer represent where he's coming from, though it does beg the question why he couldn't lift a finger to delete them if he felt so distanced from them.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and think they really don't represent him as a person and they are simply poor jokes... but they're ugly, stupid and I think it's inevitable he got tinned for them, given what happened to Roseanne Barr.


As for how long you should be accountable for something from your youth -- I don't feel this is necessarily something new. While I do have some sympathy for someone being judged by the idiocy of their youth (after all, we've all done moronic things in our time that we regret), everytime I entered the states, there was that green questionnaire about 'have you ever been a Nazi?' Is it certain bad behaviours for which a time limit applies? I don't think it's unfair that if the behaviour is reprehensible enough that we continue to judge a person by those actions.


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Posted: 21 July 2018 at 6:47pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

So, is Disney going to excise the rape and pedophilia jokes out of Deadpool and Deadpool 2 when they start distributing it?

There's a rape joke in Age of Ultron too, made on their watch.

Or, do they have some kind of "gross-o-meter" to determine the level of unacceptableness that's acceptable?

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Peter Martin
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Posted: 21 July 2018 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Don't forget about the rape and pedophilia jokes in Family Guy, which Disney will soon own
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You've caught them out!

We really should not forget the jokes by cartoon characters known for bad taste that may or may not be excised by Disney in a deal that may or may not be completed by Disney at some time in the future. Huge influence on this decision.


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I think it's sad what has happened to Gunn. That said,
digging up crap on a person to end their career is pretty
par for the course these days.
Henry Cavill just had to apologize to offended people who
were upset that he said in an interview that he was
uncomfortable approaching and flirting with a woman he
may find attractive due to the #Metoo movement.
Mark Duplass just got called out for saying that while he
disagreed with Ben Shapiro on most topics politically,
that he wasn't a bad guy and a good source for see a
subject for a different perspective. Both of these men
apologized for fear of what could happen to their
careers. Those are pretty harmless in context.
This kind of,called on the carpet for saying something
that overly sensitive people are offended by, has
infested entertainment. Gaming, comics, television, film
have all been put on notice. Whether it's TRUE Alt-right
nazi's or radical liberal SJW'S, I think it's way past
time to get these people out of entertainment and
business.

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Posted: 21 July 2018 at 8:31pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

To think, if James Gunn hadn't spoken up in defense of Duplass, he wouldn't have attracted Team MAGA's attention and he'd have a job today.
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 Peter Martin wrote:
I like to think they no longer represent where he's coming from, though it does beg the question why he couldn't lift a finger to delete them if he felt so distanced from them.

He did lift a finger.  Years ago.  He deleted them.  The alt-right squad dug them up via archive.  It's a reminder that anything, and I mean ANYTHING, you write on the internet is in an archive somewhere even if you think you've scrubbed your particular feed clean.
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Posted: 21 July 2018 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

David, you are trying to rationalize crazy
people. Sadly, the crazy fringe of both
the left and the right seem to be the
loudest voices. They are politicizing
things that were never meant to be
political soapboxes.

The one thing that seems to work is
cutting the flow of cash to these idiots.
In comics, Marvel, Image, and IDW have
employed fringe people and are financially
taking a pounding for it. Lucasfilm has
had their first Star Wars financial bomb.
Why, preceived special interest agendas in
the films.

Eventually, shareholders will get tired of
losing money and clean house.
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Matt, I stand corrected. That wasn't my understanding. That does, I think, swing the needle more in his favour.

Still, ugly enough not to be surprised the result once it surfaced. 
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Maybe Marvel should seize this golden opportunity to make the ending of INFINITY WAR stick and just cancel future GUARDIANS movies.


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Those jokes he made were awful in their subject matter and double awful for not being funny.

That being said, this is still a case of a successful man who was good at his job being fired because he made some jokes six years ago in the "false intimacy" of his twitter followers. 

I think that's ridiculous.


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He did lift a finger. Years ago. He deleted them. The alt-right squad dug them up via archive. It's a reminder that anything, and I mean ANYTHING, you write on the internet is in an archive somewhere even if you think you've scrubbed your particular feed clean.

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