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Posted: 20 April 2019 at 10:41pm | IP Logged | 1  

Those are two of the cut pages from the first issue. I couldn’t imagine any other context in which they could be used, so I passed them along to Jim Warden.

I don’t know what “Coollines” is, tho, and I notice those images are lifted from this Forum.

Color me confusticated!

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Coollines is an art buyer/seller that bought those two pages from Jim at the comic art convention in New Jersey last weekend.

Very nice pages, I’m looking forward to seeing all the other pages in print!
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Love Cyke’s visor in that last panel...
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JB, will you be using the rectangular word balloons for Vision?

I see it's something different nowadays.
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The rectangular balloons are, indeed, appropriate for the Vision of this vintage.
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Excellent, thanks!
Any detail, no matter how small, that takes me back to that era is invaluable to me!

If this series gets picked up, it will be the first comic I buy "off the rack" since Dec. of 1980, and it will be just the way I left them!


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Slight drift, but it seems a shame to see those pages go
from Jim to a re-seller, rather than a fan snapping them
straight up from Jim. Such is the free market though.

Edit: typo.

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Now we sit back and wait for them to show up inked!
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Dear Dog, I hope not. I'm sure there are lots of JBF members that want to keep them from being inked, myself included.
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Dear Dog, I hope not. I'm sure there are lots of JBF members that want to keep them from being inked, myself included.
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Absolutely! 

I've been practicing my inking these past several months by inking the ELSEWHEN pages, but even if I owned these, I'd never dare touch the originals.
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Trevor: Slight drift, but it seems a shame to see those pages go 
from Jim to a re-seller, rather than a fan snapping them 
straight up from Jim. Such is the free market though.


Oh man! Bummer!! I’m dying to own pages from this series. How much were they marked up by Coollines?  
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There are too many “collectors” who do not appreciate pencil art, and too many inkers who have no qualms about “finishing” such pieces.

(As noted, in my early days in fandom I was even guilty of this a few times myself!)

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Just curious- how many unused ELSEWHEN pages have been turned over to Mr. Warden, JB?
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BTW- my question was not designed to try and figure out how many pages were cut and therefore speculate on the story. I'm just curious how many pages have been 'released into the wild'...
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I was kind of hoping that I'd be able to buy pages directly from Jim, so that the money actually goes to JB and not a random dealer. 
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Scott:  Thus far, JB has released a total of three pages from ELSEWHEN to me to sell.  ALL of these pages were cut from the current storyline and JB confirmed that they will not be included in future continuity.  All three of these pages have been sold. 

Trevor: I started a new thread about my attending the Comic Art Convention the week before the show.  I set up at each of those shows and visit JB the day before to pick up new artwork to offer for sale. Rich from Cool Lines artwork bought the pages from me at the show, the pages WERE NOT offered to him privately before the convention.

Nathan: Click on the links provided to the pages and you will see that the pages are NOT priced on the Cool Lines site.  Such is the business model for much of the artwork offered there!

Jason:  You WILL be able to buy pages directly from me; my e-mail address is: capshockeyfan@yahoo.com  

Everyone Interested in ELSEWHEN Pages:  JB will not be offering any of the ELSEWHEN pages that are part of the current continuity for sale until their publication status is certain.  If JB decides to cut any additional pages from the story, at his discretion, these may be offered for sale.

Once the publication status of the ELSEWHEN pages is determined, and JB gives the green light, the pages will be offered for sale.  I WILL post a new thread to the Forum once the pages are available. 
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So good to see the Avengers again, especially this
Wonder Man!
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It makes me so happy knowing that some day, in some format, somewhere, I'll get to read some JB stories with the characters I knew and loved! That Avenger's page is amazing!
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I emailed the Coollines guys - $6k for one of the pages, $7k for the other. Good news is I cant imagine anyone paying that much and then having someone else ink over it?
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I think you may be right, Jason. But never underestimate the rich and stupid.
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"Trevor: I started a new thread about my attending the
Comic Art Convention the week before the show. I set
up at each of those shows and visit JB the day before
to pick up new artwork to offer for sale. Rich from
Cool Lines artwork bought the pages from me at the
show, the pages WERE NOT offered to him privately
before the convention."

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Sorry Jim, I should have been clearer - my thought was
that it's a shame that a fan was beaten to the punch
by a re-seller, not that I believed they were offered
to a re-seller first. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
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I emailed the Coollines guys - $6k for one of the pages, $7k for the other. Good news is I cant imagine anyone paying that much and then having someone else ink over it?

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Oh, I can. But I cannot really imagine anyone paying those prices in the first place. They’re 3 and almost 4 times what Jim charged!

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That's how the Coollines guys roll. Ask tomorrow and
the price will be $7k and $8k...
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"3 and almost 4 times"

Love the comic art after market. =/

It is good to see so much interest in this project. I feel like at this point we are just watching the clock for the announcement of when this book hits the shelves. I would love to see an Artist Edition and I can't see JB's efforts being overlooked by IDW at all so no need to lobby their offices.

JB, three and a half years ago you mentioned that you "would have been happy as a clam to do 100 issues" of Hidden Years. Do you see a similarly outstretched horizon with Elsewhen?

Thanks again for all the sharing on this project.
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Thanks for the very clear info Jim !
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