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Andrew Bitner
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You put into words something that, even as a kid, I found nagging-- how does THAT shape of an interior fit into THAT house? I'm guessing it's a detail that drives architects to distraction when watching a show.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Was it Steve Ditko who actually had buildings appear in the same relationship to each other in NYC over early issues Spider-Man? I'm not sure how true that is, but it made me really 'marvel' that someone could care enough or whatever makes someone create at that level. William Hartnell knowing the Tardis controls and where they were located on Doctor Who was another 'wow' moment like that.
This unfolding comic is great drama every page because there seem to be real people underneath, there's a foundation. I'm definitely wordy like Claremont and sometimes I have to figure out that less is more. Like Jean making the toy bird's wings flap, or Alex Toth suggesting so much with a minimum of lines. The last thing I would want to do is disturb the magic, we should be enabling it.
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 19 July 2018 at 10:33am
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Vinny Valenti
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Not sure about Ditko, but Ross Andru really captured 70's NYC during his Spider-Man run, even getting the more obscure areas of the city (like the Rockaways) correct.
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Vinny Valenti
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"Voices somewhat at odds with Chris' versions. For one thing, my characters neither think nor speak in paragraphs."
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Hah, I did notice how much more room there was for artwork on these pages!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 July 2018 at 11:14am | IP Logged | 5
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Not sure about Ditko, but Ross Andru really captured 70's NYC during his Spider-Man run, even getting the more obscure areas of the city (like the Rockaways) correct.••• Ross was astounding -- and intimidating. As a punk wannabe living in Canada, in the days before Google, the most I could hope for was to capture the feel of the city. (Just had a D'OH moment. Why did it not occur to me to just SWIPE Ross?!?)
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John Byrne
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Hah, I did notice how much more room there was for artwork on these pages!••• Some of you may know this story: When Frank Miller was working on the WOLVERINE mini with Chris, he told me that he'd noticed how my art tended to get buried under Chris' verbiage. So Frank decided to leave LOTS of room for copy. Meanwhile, tho, Chris had noticed how sparse Frank's own scripting style was. He decided to emulate that, and the result was acre upon acre of empty space! Which self-appointed critics lauded as a bold new style!
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John Byrne
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Frustration 'R' Us! Reading some HIDDEN YEARS over lunch, and realizing there is SO MUCH MORE I could do, if only this could magically turn into a real series, like NEW VISIONS did. For one thing, touching upon something near and dear to my heart, the time frame would allow an intersection with LOST GENERATION, as happened in XMHY.AARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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John Byrne
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WARNING: Let's not have a FANTASTIC 4 EVER scenario repeat itself here. No over-eager Forum members contacting Marvel to demand this become a real book. We all know how well THAT went!!
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John Byrne
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And that is NOT reverse psychology!!
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Michael Penn
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When Mr. Claremont exercised restraint, he could be magnificent.
But I so much disliked his treatment of the characters post-JB that I soon dropped the book (hung about for the return of Dave Cockrum).
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John Byrne
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When Mr. Claremont exercised restraint, he could be magnificent.•• On IRON FIST, Chris made me cry reading a scene I had drawn. And for the RIGHT reasons.
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John Byrne
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Feeling a mite dissatisfied with the loose pencils on the Grey house, so....
Came out a bit Cockrum-esque, I think. (Why is it THIS page, I wonder, that is vexing me so cruelly?)
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