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Posted: 14 September 2018 at 10:02am | IP Logged | 1  

I've been noticing people scattered around the web overreacting (!!) to my comment that these ELSEWHEN pages have been "falling out of my pencil" at the rate of about one per hour. Again, it seems, I must emphasize that this is an average. with some taking longer, and some taking less. It's all about what's in the pictures. Kitty's solo adventure, with more detailed technical backgrounds, took more.

When I started, It took me about two hours to do a page of full pencils. One of the things that got me my first work at Marvel, in fact, was my speed. Production Manager John Verpoorten loved the fact that he could send me a 17 page plot and expect in back in less than 10 days.

Fortunately, as I got technically more proficient, I did not lose my speed, and, in fact, as I have learned just how much can be entrusted to the inker (not having to fill in black areas completely, for instance) my penciling speed has increased.

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That is such a great skill - It's one thing to be fast and just average, but to be that fast and produce high quality art is impressive! When you start, do you already 'see' the whole page? Do you do those tiny thumbnails first?
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I have to say it's a treasure being able to see your creative process and learn all the ins and outs of it.

And as a side note:  I don't think anyone draws Wolverine's claws better than you.  As a teenager, I was so curious about the mechanism of his claws basically because the way you drew them made them seem so believable as "bionic implants" (versus "bone claws")

I only wish you'd been able to draw the scene you once described where Wolverine has to pop his claws out of the palms of his hands because they're bent at 90 degrees and the claw tubes don't line up from his forearms to his hands
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Not too long ago, a story went ‘round the internet that I had “just” stopped doing thumbnails. Some were quick to pounce on this as the reason for the supposed decline in my work since (pick a date).

Snag was, the report could only have come from someone who’d been snoozing whilst playing journalist, since what I’d actually said was that I’d stopped doing thumbnails before I got into the Biz.

So, yes, I start with a pretty clear “snapshot” of the whole page in my head and “project” that onto the paper.

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"Nightcrawler's plunging back neckline"

Ah-ha, I guess page 16 will be the one to ink differently then.
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If it, and 17, hadn't already been tweaked.
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Ok, so I had a crack at the first page.
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What happened to Cyclops? Did he fall into a vat of tar?
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Tony Marin
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This is an alternate version with a solid black rendering of his costume I’ve always sort of liked better.
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Tony Marin
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@ John Byrne. Hey, I’m not George Perez.

Edited by Tony Marin on 16 September 2018 at 9:22am
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Obviously.
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Eric Sofer
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Tony M. - you don't need to be George Perez. Besides, the job is already taken. That Tony Marin job looks better for you, honestly.
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