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Mario Ribeiro
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Thank you, JB! Wonderful work.
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WOW... so it ends... with a lump in my throat, I humbly thank you for this treat, JB. You went above and beyond what I expected after you took a break from the drawing board. Glad to know the "fire still burns".

This was such a great exercise to see... and right to the last page!

-C!
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Thanks, JB. I can't quite believe I got to see this unfold.
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You have created the perfect never ending story!

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Well.... I wasn't my intent to trap the gang in an unending loop! In the "second issue" the action would pick up from Cyclops musing on how differently the day had gone from what he expected, and proceed without the flashback.

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And look! There's the correct back design on Wolverine!

Bravo, John! Bravo!

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Well, he DID design it, after all.

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Not that such things count for much! I've been amazed, over the years, by how quickly costumes will change, once the original artist departs. One glaring example was Neal Adams' black and white Angel costume, on which the white panel changed configuration with the very next issue after Neal left.

(Small confession: I actually preferred Sal Buscema's version, as it was easier to draw!! But I used Neal's version whenever I was called upon to portray our Mr. Worthington -- except in THE CHAMPIONS, where it was out of my hands.)

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JB, that final page is fantastic. Sauron has never looked more menacing, at least not that I can remember!

Thank you for sharing these pages with us. It's been a privilege.
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View count has shrunk again, I see.
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Bit of a revelation, working on this. Reviewing some of the work in ESSENTIAL X-MEN, I could not help but be reminded of how much exposition Chris used. This was mostly to placate Shooter, who wanted every scrap of Who, What, Where, When and Why laid out by no later than page 3. So Chris' characters tend to think and speak not only in paragraphs, but as a constant stream of backstory detailing.

I've mentioned before that I was mystified by readers who insisted Jean and Ororo should have recognized each other in GSXM1, if their meeting was "real" as recounted in XMHY. I would respond that a) they met again in the middle of a battle, and b) they had plenty of time for a reunion on the trip home. Now, reading those old stories, I realize those having trouble with my structure were raised on Claremont comics, where expositional dialog takes precedence, no matter what the scenario.

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That's interesting John. So there is a degree of programming and association. 

The readers are programmed to expect that sort of a 'read' with those characters and they associate that style of writing with characters of that era.

I'm trying to think of another example of this and I guess it would be the tone hit on Iron Fist. "You are Iron Fist and you---"




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"You are Iron Fist..." was not Chris' affectation. He didn't like it, in fact, and wanted to switch to a simple first person narration.
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The page count has to have rolled over again.
This is the best XMEN comic in years.
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The ArtOnly thread hasn't rolled over.

Argh!

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