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Posted: 21 September 2018 at 7:12pm | IP Logged | 1  

Tried a few pages. So very odd, having spent all these years teaching myself to avoid narrative captions and thought balloons. It will come more easily with time.

Number one thing to avoid, an unintended parody of Chris!

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Manuel Soler
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Mr.Byrne,

So what do think about "Untold Story" plus revised X-Men #138 (maybe updating #138 with a recap of the Hidden Years) as a possible X-Men Elsewhen #0 and of course, with a new cover (with a hidden #137-138 à la Hidden Years)? And then, going with your story in #1.

Then you can fill the gaps between #0 and #1 later in an Annual or similar (an "alternate" story to X-Men Annual #4).


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Philippe Negrin
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I like your inking work Tony...Are you young enough to try and break into this profession ?
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Thanks Philippe. Nope, at 43 I think I’m to old for a career change but I’ve really liked having a go and with the technology available, it makes all of this pretty easy compared to when I drew before. Anyway, drawing pretty pictures is one thing, producing good sequential art is another.
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Mark Haslett
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I love love love the writing in your captions that we have from when it was your
practice to write them.

Your thought balloons were also a specific treat, in my opinion.

Please Yes
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An effect of this scripting exercise is that I have decided to tease my “readers” a bit and move a tweaked version of the Jean page, involving Scott and Xavier, to the imaginary “second issue”.
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I bet that's a nice luxury not having to deal with deadlines and having time to ponder various scenarios.
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Nathan Greno
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Some nice inking on that page, Tony!
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Late to the party, but I also vote YES on narrative captions 
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In another thread I commented (yet again) that one of the things that caused me to quit UNCANNY X-MEN was the way Chris wrote the characters. I felt they were very much, well, off character, but his version was what the fans were seeing and embracing, so I realized if I didn't like those versions, it meant I didn't like the X-Men. Time to leave!

It occurs to me now that this will almost certainly be one of the complaints against ELSEWHEN, should it become a real series. "How can you let Byrne do this! He doesn't even like the characters!"

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Noticing this thread is 66 pages long! Not bad for a book that doesn't exist!!
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Posted: 28 September 2018 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 12  

Since I can't stop playing with this in my head, I also can't stop myself working out details of format for "future issues".

Such as, I've been wondering if this "start in the middle" approach would work on a monthly basis, or if it would get old fast. When I was in my teens there was a detective show called THE OUTSIDER that took this approach, taking a scene from deep in the story and using it as the pre-credits teaser. I thought that was pretty cool.

Having narrative captions would, of course, make it easy to bridge between timeframes.

Wish I could stop thinking about this stuff!!!!!!!

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