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Jim Muir
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 1:37am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Not seen this mentioned on here, but a snippet of news regarding
Lucas’ plans for ep 7-9 have surfaced - apparently from James
Cameron’s new history of sci-fi show.

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As an artist I applaud him, but as a fan ... really glad this never saw the
light of day.
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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 6:00am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Yes, I would have hated that.
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Matt Hawes
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This is more proof that the George Lucas that gave us the original trilogy is no longer the same guy decades later. A lot can happen to a person to change their way of writing and views on life and other things that affects how they approach things in general. The George Lucas that fans want is no more.

I know the Disney Star Wars haters who once seemed to bemoan the prequels (and with good reason, really) now have mostly done an about face and think George would have been the savior of the new films, but this article is an example that  such a thing would likely not be the case. The people thinking Lucas would have done a much better job after how he did the prequels remind me of the DC film fans who tore into Zach Synder but now seems to think his "cut" of the JUSTICE LEAGUE would have been glorious, despite his past record with the DC characters. Choose a lane, dudes, and stick with it.

Anyway, I think STAR WARS has become such a thing that it's impossible for ANYONE (or director, writer, studios) to make a new film that will please all the fans. Fans have taken full possession of the properties in their own minds, and a sizable faction will not be happy with any new version or additions to the saga.
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Thomas Woods
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I used to game master Star Wars the Role playing game
with friends. I had an idea for Star Wars that was not
Luke, but another Jedi, but I think it could work with
Luke after Jedi.

- Luke is captured by enemy forces, remnants of the
Empire
- He is being transported by a prison ship. The ship
is brought out of hyperspace by a pirate fleet (either
tricking them with a signal or some other tech) and
attacked. They attempt a jump to light speed but
immediately are pulled out by a hostile system and the
ship is pummeled by meteorites and crash lands on a
hostile planet.
- This planet is constantly having natural disasters
due to gravitational pulls from an abnormal moon,
meteorite strikes, and other reasons.
- The alien race there are very adaptable and
intelligent, but cannot develop beyond huts due to
their constant need to move around. Luke appears to
them as some religious figure.
- Being trapped here with them for months or even
years, Luke trains a select few in the force. And here
is where we get our new antagonist and protagonist
- The saver ships encountered earlier come here to
pick up slaves, he learns, and he hopes for an
opportunity to escape the next time they show up.
- One thing leads to another and the protagonist and
antagonist (who have both learned a lot in a short
time) are taken by the slavers and Luke is still
stranded. But his lightsaber ends up in the hands of
the slaver leader.
-The new main characters are put into arena battles
for entertainment. The good one does not enjoy it, but
the one that turns to the dark side starts to enjoy
killing.

- The rest could go anywhere, but it would revolve
around the new hero getting Luke's lightsaber, finding
Han, and going to rescue Luke. With the slaver faction
as the main bad guy with the Dark Side bad guy leading
them.


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Trevor Krysak
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 9:38pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I really liked the book trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising and The Last Command) by Timothy Zahn that started off the flood of Star Wars novels in the 90s. It would have been a solid way to further the adventures of Luke, Han, Leia and all the rest. If it could have been made into films.

Unfortunately, it took place shortly after Return of the Jedi and there was no way the cast would have been able to make films with that version of the story. Too much time had passed. But elements have started to trickle in. Grand Admiral Thrawn from the books was featured in the Star Wars: Rebels tv series. Along with his Noghri bodyguard/assassin, Rukh. Maybe Mara Jade will pop up at some point.

It''s clear with all the bad/weird interpretations of the Star Wars galaxy over the decades that the sweet spot for it is not easy to find. Lucas had lightning in a bottle for a while. And then it got away.
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 15 June 2018 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

As long as he brought back Jar Jar for Episode VII as originally intended, these sequels would have been amazing.
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Matt>> A lot can happen to a person to change their way of writing and views on life and other things that affects how they approach things in general. The George Lucas that fans want is no more.<<

Not sure he ever was.  The original (as shot, not early drafts) was almost doomed to be a bad movie except from the brilliant (Academy Award winning) final edit. The edit fixed a lot of messy writing.

I should add there's nothing odd about a story getting beaten into shape on the final edit, after all it's the point of having the final edit. They were just lucky they had enough footage to successfully beat it into shape. Many bad movies clearly didn't get beaten into shape on their final edit.

How many times is a film accused of having "bad writing" when the writing was only one of a lot of things that can make a movie fail.  The more I learn, the more I notice films where the core ideas seem pretty viable in retrospect, but the execution didn't work for various (possibly numerous) reasons. The messy "Jupiter Ascending" comes to mind.  Twenty minutes of extra footage and some equal cleanup for clarity would have helped enormously. Collaboration is tricky business, and GL was super lucky he had the editing team he did.
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Posted: 16 June 2018 at 7:01am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Not sure he ever was. The original (as shot, not early drafts) was almost doomed to be a bad movie except from the brilliant (Academy Award winning) final edit. The edit fixed a lot of messy writing.

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How true! The Marvel comic "adaptation" gives something of an idea of what the movie might have looked like without that edit.

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Posted: 16 June 2018 at 7:02am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I know the Disney Star Wars haters…

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Please, please, please let's not fall into the InterWeb habit of dismissing dissenting views as "haters". "Hate" is a very big word.

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Posted: 16 June 2018 at 11:40am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Saved on the editing floor

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It is always good to have a 2nd pair of eyes, or many
eyes put your work through the gauntlet. Especially
the ones who are closely in love with it and will be
the most critical. I fear As time went by, George
surrounded himself by agreeable people and not really
in love with the universe.

I think M. Night S. would have been well served by
having someone read his scripts who were very
critical.
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Posted: 16 June 2018 at 11:53am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I was surprised when watching a video on that editing
room save, that the Death Star was not a threat to the
rebel base before the edit.
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Daniel Gillotte
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Posted: 18 June 2018 at 9:00am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Was he going to write a Micronauts Star Wars crossover?
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Christopher Frost
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Posted: 22 June 2018 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

Lucas once said that 50% of movie making takes place in the editing room, so the man clearly knows the value of good editing.
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