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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 7:42am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

In the Ontario elections we had a situation where good things that happened under the current leadership were overshadowed by some rather bad things that occurred during the same time period. People were ready for a change and the NDP alternative was not viable. People have short memories and increasingly I am seeing less and less qualified people entering political office. The ineptitude and desire to exploit office are at cartoonish levels.


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Is it wrong of me to want Kim to nuke Hawaii just to prove Rump wrong?

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Rebecca Jansen
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Oddly enough there is an element of self-destruction at work I can see in some people who would back a Trump or Ford (England doesn't seem to have a s clear-cut a character like them that I know of, Farage had more than just sticking it to the EU to him)... they are angry and see a big monkey wrench to 'F' things up. Anger is not a plan, but that argument would mean nothing to these people, they do want their own neighbor to suffer and be punished (as they feel they have or will). Actually trusting Jong-Un does seem more likely to lead to Guam or Hawaii being attacked than calling him names even. They new Trump Republicans would mostly just blame Obama of course.

Another faction who feed the Trump/populist/outsider pendulum swing would be the people for whom things seem to be falling apart and they don't like what's replacing or not replacing what used to be. Not everyone in that category will get desperate enough to back chaos or crazy though. This is where the 'big jobs, big jobs' and cut spending and taxes surface glamor comes in  though under the guise of such things as 'America first', 'Britain for the British'.  Remember the people needing wheelbarrows of currency to buy bread in 1920s Germany during the liberal Weimar Republic with all sorts of banner-waving rallying fascist and revolutionary type groups and their various 'news' papers. History might not repeat but as Mark Twain said, it usually does rhyme. Putting on my Batman Junior Detective cowl. :^|


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Interesting premise for a thread.  I think part of the reason Trump currently enjoys 42% approval (or whatever) and that there isn't more outrage about his incompetence or the corruption within his government is that his policies haven't had much direct effect on most Americans yet.  The most substantial policy he has overseen is the massive tax cut, and that isn't going to affect Americans in a negative way until the point in time in which the deficit forces them to make substantial cutbacks in Social Security and/or Medicare, which is likely at least a decade away.  This country is headed for a retirement crisis... a lot of people around my age (51) do not have enough saved and are going to be in for a rude awakening if they expect Social Security to provide more than pocket change.  Trump's policies have added to that slow-burning fire, but people won't see the effects for years. 
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"Is it wrong of me to want Kim to nuke Hawaii just to prove Rump wrong?"

Short answer:  Yup.  That's pretty rotten and unfunny.



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"Short answer:  Yup.  That's pretty rotten and unfunny."

I think what Mr. Byrne wrote was in response to Trump tweeting: "no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea,” and “everybody can now feel much safer."

If Trump actually believes that we're probably all in big trouble like an attack on Hawaii at some point. :^(
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