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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 11 June 2018 at 1:28am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

This looks pretty cool.

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Oh, my head hurts after reading the comments to the trailer on YouTube. Those nutty "Flat-Earthers" and the "moon landing is fake" conspiracy kooks came out in full force to spew their nonsense there.

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They left out the American flag planting scene, cause
politics, guess I won't be seeing it now.
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This film looks totally up my street. 
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Posted: 31 August 2018 at 6:21am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Just because the scene's not in the trailer, Thomas?
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Just because the scene's not in the trailer, Thomas?

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I heard they left the iconic scene on the moon out of
the movie. Maybe the movie ends with the foot hitting
the surface, I guess that would be acceptable.
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Posted: 31 August 2018 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/neil-armstrong-sons-defen d-first-man-1202923910/

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 Thomas Woods wrote:
They left out the American flag planting scene, cause politics, guess I won't be seeing it now.

Oh well.  Guess your knee jerk reaction to far right media criticism about a film that most have not seen but nonetheless feel compelled to rage against, all the while ignoring Neil Armstrong's sons who have come out in support of the film that is about their father, is far more important.  

You blame "politics" that do not show in the movie, but instead should turn inward to your immediate reaction to a false narrative.  Best to examine your sources and compare them to what you eventually will see rather than get in a bluster and denounce a film you originally were excited to see simply because some nut told you there was a "political" motive behind its making. 
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And dog love you, Robbie Parry, but in response to the thread that was locked today because we're already talking about it here, "Hollywood" isn't a monolithic entity. You started a thread titled "Hollywood just cut the flag out of the moon landing biopic".  So many things wrong with that title, my friend, but the first would be blaming an entire industry vs a single studio.  

I used to rage against it all the time on this board and the previous JB boards, but "Hollywood" isn't singular.  It's not one entity.  Studios don't convene like football teams in the NFL in order to decide how best to proceed.  I know it's easy to say "Hollywood" in order to lump every corporation into one basket, but that's totally and absolutely unfair.  In this specific case, Universal Studios (the studio behind FIRST MAN) should have been the one singled out and not "Hollywood" as a whole. That may sound pedantic to you, but it's actually not. To say otherwise, to lump every single decision made by a multitude of different studios and production companies under one roof, is lazy.  

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Matt, I accept that 100%. And it's a little out of character for me, especially as I have said similar things when someone has lumped numerous wrestling federations together (or even my civil service days, when people would have a go at me over issues pertaining to totally different departments).

So, yes, I get what you are saying, and I do accept that. Apologies, anyway!

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Everyone who sees the movie will know it as an American
achievement, and including the flag scene will not take
away the human race aspect of the achievement. Seems
pointless to leave it out.

I'll just wait till it goes to netflix. Really enjoyed
the initial trailer.
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Everyone who sees the movie will know it as an American 
achievement

Exactly. Which is why this manufactured outrage by Republicans is so dumb. Just from the trailers alone, it's obvious that their depiction of the moon landing is an American endeavor, and they are not and cannot hide that.


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Seems pointless to leave it out.

According to the filmmaker, he wanted to focus on the private, personal moments of Armstrong's experience. Skipping a moment that was viewed by the entire world and has been recreated in TV and movies multiple times since then doesn't seem pointless at all.
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When Republicans aren't in power, they complain about government incompetence and how those in power are doing everything wrong.  When Republicans are in power, they don't do any better, so they complain about social/cultural issues to distract from the fact that their incompetence equals that of the other side.

Its not just flags in moon movies.  The war on Christmas is gonna get fierce this year.  They've got to be aggrieved about something.


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I am so looking forward to this movie.  The weirdness of this fake controversy baffles me - as far as I can tell, they didn’t even shoot the scene, so there was nothing to cut out.  Like any storyteller, they chose what they wanted to do and it looks like they gave careful consideration as to how to depict Armstrong’s experience.  If you’re telling Armstrong’s story, his foot hitting the Moon is the big moment.  



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When Republicans..

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What about the Democrats?
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What about them?  Offer more than the knee-jerk question.
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A while back the producers of the first G.I. Joe movie were rumored to be a bit skittish about the subject matter. America was not that popular on the world stage because of the Iraq invasion, and the producers were probably worried a G.I. Joe movie would bomb internationally. So they reportedly wanted an "international" team of soldiers. In the end the team turned out all-American, but bombed anyways for being a not-great movie. 

These days the moon missions are presented as sort of a big, noble science experiment. It was really part of a life-and-death struggle America was waging with the Soviet Union. I wonder how much that will figure into First Man. Otherwise, what would be the reason the characters are shown to be under so much tension to get to the Moon? 




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So many opinions about a movie no-one has seen. Speaking as an outsider, is there a thing in America these days that isn't politicised? 
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is there a thing in America these days that isn't politicised?  
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Sadly, no.  Even what chicken restaurant you eat at is a political statement now.
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These days the moon missions are presented as sort of a big, noble science experiment. It was really part of a life-and-death struggle America was waging with the Soviet Union. I wonder how much that will figure into First Man. Otherwise, what would be the reason the characters are shown to be under so much tension to get to the Moon?  

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As should be evident by the title and the discussion of the movie, FIRST MAN is not an Apollo 11 movie, it’s a Neil Armstrong movie. The movie is an adaptation of Armstrong’s authorized biography. While the geopolitical reasons for the Apollo mission may or may not be a backdrop to his story, I’d expect Armstrong’s personal perspective to be more central to the film. 
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The trailers show the movie will touch upon Armstrong's X-15 flights and the Lunar Module testbed crash.

I'm in.
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I'll stick with the RIGHT STUFF and APOLLO
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Why broaden your horizons.  Got it.  
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Buzz Aldrin says he is 'proud to be an American' after
First Man movie leaves out US flag planting on moon

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/03/buzz-
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He tweeted a photo of the flag being planted and
#proudtobeAmerican
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Does anybody know if the movie depicts the plaque on the Apollo 11 LM landing leg?  Or show Armstrong actually saying those words on the Moon? (Which he did.)
Apollos 12,14,15 and 16 did not have anything other than the ship name, the date, and the crew, but Apollo 17 also had a high-minded sentiment.  "May the spirit of peace in which we came be reflected in the lives of all Mankind."

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