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Peter Martin
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Ok, so Marvel Studios has made a load of movies. Which character do you think they've handled the best? Not your favourite character, but the one you think they've done the best job of translating the character from the page to the screen.

Your answer will be just one character. For extra brownie points, explain why.

My answer: Dr Strange.

I'm watching Thor: Ragnarok at the moment and I love how focussed the character is (despite that film's overt humour) and how capable. Just like the Earth's Sorceror Supreme. I also really liked his role in Infinity War. A big character, dealing with big stakes and played very straight and extremely faithful to the comic-book version.

For some reason, this character interacting with Spider-Man and Iron Man most captured the feeling of those awesome guest appearances in Marvel titles I remember from my youth.


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For me my answer is two fold because not only do I feel that Captain America was done properly, he is my favorite hero so it's a win-win for me.  From his humble beginnings in World War II up through the infinity War he has held true to his beliefs and  that in itself is his greatest strength.
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Captain America. Chris Evans has really owned that role. The Cap movies are the strongest of the trilogies. And his overall story line has echoed many different beats from the comics. There have obviously been changes made to his look and back story but they really nailed the core of the character. 
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Despite the comments of the director of CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER regarding Captain America's outfit from the comics, Captain America is the best-handled to me. Chris Evans is great, and Captain America comes off as the honest, sincere, true hero from the comics. There is no irony in how Evans portrays the character, and how the character has been written in films like THE WINTER SOLDIER, CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR, and THE AVENGERS movies.

I'm a big Dr. Strange fan, and I enjoyed his film. but I'd hardly say he has been portrayed "very straight" in any of the films, so far. He has a smart ass personality in the movies that differs from the comics, and it's played for laughs.

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Captain America by a mile. When I first heard Chris Evans got the role I was worried. I thought his Johnny Storm was one of the stronger parts of the Fantastic Four movies but that wasn’t saying much.

His Cap though? Just brilliant.
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Costumes aside, which were mostly terrible, Steve Rogers and Captain America.  Chris Evans' casting and handling of Cap are on par with Christopher Reeve's Clark Kent and Superman.  It was the man before the hero in both cases. 
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…I feel that Captain America was done properly…

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Especially when they mock the Simon/Kirby version of the costume.

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Costumes aside, which were mostly terrible, Steve Rogers and Captain America.

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Isn't that like excusing a D-Day movie with all the troops in their underwear?

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I only saw the first Captain America movie, so I can't speak to anything else, but of everything in that film I pretty much only liked the scene showing his transformation and then his chasing the Nazi assassin.

The opening 10 minutes from THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 were fairly good too.


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I only saw the first Captain America movie, so I can't speak to anything else, but of everything in that film I pretty much only liked the scene showing his transformation and then his chasing the Nazi assassin.

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The extended trailer for THE FIRST AVENGER was the best Captain America movie I have ever seen. Sure, I had to squint to get past the costume*, but all the BAD stuff was omitted.

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* Costume redesigned by Hollywood so it would look "like something actually designed in the Forties." Er....?

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The characterization of CAPTAIN AMERICA has been spot on in every
appearance. Similar with BLACK PANTHER.
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Captain America so far. T'Challa is up and coming!
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I think that the best character transition, by a long shot, has been Loki. Every twitch, every machination and motivation, all of his inherent nastiness and self-servitude seem to have been carried over.

Maybe it's more Tom Hiddleston than direction and writing - but I chuckle at the character every time he's on screen. He's brilliant. They even get the costume right.
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There's always one nagging detail that gets in the way of a "perfect" portrayal, I think. Like Captain America's costume, as mentioned, or Spider-Man's organic web shooters in an otherwise terrific movie. 

I'll go with Bruce Banner/Hulk from THE INCREDIBLE HULK. I know Mark Ruffalo is more popular, but Norton's portrayal felt closer to the source material. 
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I really appreciate Black Panther's refusal to kill in the movies, though there were numerous times that the audience would have cheered for him doing so. He was one of the only characters to ever stand on the principle that killing reduces heroes to the level of the villains, which is a point that comics (used to) drive home all the time, but hardly ever comes up on the big screen.
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Captain America.

(But kevlar in WWII??  Good grief... I can live with the later iterations, but I really don't like that particular outfit.  If any one movie called-out for the most comic-accurate onscreen-costume...!)





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I'm a big Dr. Strange fan, and I enjoyed his film. but I'd hardly say he has been portrayed "very straight" in any of the films, so far. He has a smart ass personality in the movies that differs from the comics, and it's played for laughs.

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I recall Strange becoming more "smart-ass" in the late 1980s. I think he's been that way ever since.
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As someone who hasn't read any of the 21st century GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY movies, I ask: does Chris Pratt's Star-Lord match up with the comics' Star-Lord, personality-wise?
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This thread is really depressing me.
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I really enjoyed Hugo Weaving's version of the Red Skull.
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Marc M. Woolman
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I'd have to say Dr Strange. They seem
to have his powers and motivations
correct and he has his comics-accurate
costume.

Almost all of the Marvel films mess up
the costumes, Captain America's being
the worst, but even Spider-man's
costume got changed.
How Marvel could do a Spider-Man movie
and not have his classic high school
characters, or the Daily Bugle and
those characters, is a head-scratcher.

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 Marc Woolman wrote:
...I'd have to say Dr Strange. They seem
to have his powers and motivations
correct and he has his comics-accurate
costume....

The costume is kinda-sorta close. -- Close as movie costumes gets these days -- but to say it's "comics accurate" is a stretch. I would say it's as far off the mark as, say, Captain America's outfit in the first AVENGERS films. Sure, both suits have elements that come from the comic, and the design is still close enough that you know who the character is without being told, but Dr. Strange's outfit is not comics accurate.
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Really? I'm not a Dr. strange fan,
I've never bought or read his own
comic, but I've read plenty of issues
where he guest-starred, and just going
from memory, the movie costume seemed
pretty accurate.

None of the Captain America costumes
were even close to accurate, certainly
not that baggy, dingy, costume of the
first movie.

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I state again, Dr. Strange's movie costume is every bit as comic accurate as Captain America's:


If we are going for comic accurate as far as the films, only Iron Man (in the first film, which resembled the armor Iron Man was wearing in the comics, circa 2008) or the Hulk comes close to looking most like the comic book counterpart.



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In his book ADVENTURES IN THE SCREEN TRADE, William Goldman describes the basic approach to "adaptations" is to begin by asking How much can we change?

This is most definitely the case when it comes to costumes/uniforms. The two seen above seem to represent the costume "designers" breaking the originals down into the smallest possible parts, then looking for something to change in each.

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Whatever might be the (unconvincing) arguments about how Cap's movie uniform is more practical than his comicbook version, none of that could possibly apply to Dr. Strange! 

How sad and stupid that, although we have graphics today that can literalize the likes of Steve Ditko, these moviemakers refuse to...
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