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Matt Hawes
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Donald Glover and Ryan Gosling among the actors being considered:



It's supposed to be an (ugh) prequel. I hate prequels. Sigh. Anyway, thoughts...?





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Yet another origin story.  Yet another way to demystify a character that, I think, works best in mystery.  Like the actors being considered, but am right now out on this movie. 
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 Matt Reed wrote:
Yet another origin story.  Yet another way to demystify a character that, I think, works best in mystery.

Agreed. 

I like that the character, in the books and 1971 film, had a mystique. It allowed my imagination to run riot. Part of me even wondered if he was even human. Okay, I knew he was, but there was still so much I didn't know.

I don't want to know about his background, his childhood, etc. I hated the 2005 movie - and all those unnecessary flashbacks.

Why demystify people? They did it with Vader, they did it with Wolverine - and now they're doing it with Wonka.

Whether it's PLANET OF THE APES, WILLY WONKA or so  many other characters, maybe, just maybe, the producers/directors/writers got it right when the movies were first made; maybe there was a reason the films started during the time period when they did.

If Wonka had needed an "origin story", then maybe, just maybe, Roald Dahl would have written one and had a higher page count in his books. Why demystify everything?
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Origin stories done retroactively are just lazy. All the groundwork is already laid, and writers need only pepper their tales with a few references to same -- usually inappropriate or anachronistic.

Creative bankruptcy.

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Prequels blow. Didn't they already try something like that with Johnny Depp??

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I like most of Tim Burton's work, but I found his version of CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY to be self-indulgent shite. What was particularly shite was the insistence on flashbacks. No-one ever lobbied for that, I'm sure.

Whilst Gene Wilder's Wonka was eccentric and had a mischievous nature, he was avuncular and warm; Depp's Wonka, under Burton's directorship, came across as creepy with ZERO redeeming features.

And the songs were no good, either. I have nothing good to say about the film. 
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Can't wait to find out what the character's REAL name is. Seriously--"Willy Wonka"? What the hell was Dahl thinking?
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Whilst Gene Wilder's Wonka was eccentric and had a mischievous nature, he was avuncular and warm; Depp's Wonka, under Burton's directorship, came across as creepy with ZERO redeeming features.

Depp has been quoted as saying he modeled his Wonka on Michael Jackson.

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Jeez, what were they thinking with this film?
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Nein, danke.

The 1971 version is all I'll ever need.


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I know the 1971 version made some changes (in the novel, Charlie Bucket's dad is alive and working in a toothpaste factory is one such example), but I feel the version is charming, warm and a pleasure to watch.

I believe Roald Dahl is on record as not having been satisfied with the 1971 version. One article I read stated he put a block on the sequel being made (there was a book sequel, CHARLIE AND THE GREAT GLASS ELEVATOR). 

But I have also read comments about how he would have endorsed the 2005 version. Dahl died in 1990; the film was released in 2005. I'm not going to say he would have endorsed it, but I'm not going to say he would have criticised it, either. There's no earthly way of knowing what his view would have been.
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 QUOTE:
The 1971 version is all I'll ever need.


Exactly!

It's going to be very hard for anyone to ever match (never mind outdo) Gene
Wilder and the other actors who produced that one.
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