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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 07 October 2018 at 10:52pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I think with The Joker, Warners is taking the Fox approach with superhero movies. Small budgets, $50 to $100 million. Obscure or relatively untapped characters. If it bombs, the low cost makes it easier to recoup later. Keep at it until they get the $500 million hit. 

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 Joe Zhang wrote:
...Obscure or relatively untapped characters...

Joe, do you really think The Joker is either obscure or relatively untapped?

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If WB can turn a big profit on a well-known character who has never headlined his own film or TV show, then that definitely qualifies as "relatively untapped"!

Even if it's the character in name-only...  
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Some could and have argued that Batman took a backseat to The Joker in both BATMAN (1989) and THE DARK KNIGHT (2008), I wouldn't say the Joker is untapped, relatively or otherwise. Between those movies, the 60s' TV series, GOTHAM, the many animated films, and such, not to mention the SUICIDE SQUAD movie, I would say he's been very much tapped.

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Joe used the phrase "relatively untapped" specifically with regard to WB's latest DC films strategy, not as an overall description of the character's tv & film history. This is 100% accurate; as the title character in a lower-budget feature film initiative, he's been untapped--until now.





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Posted: 09 October 2018 at 10:46am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I would say he's been very much tapped.

Tapped out. 

One shouldn't have a chance to get tired of the Joker. And yet, here I am. 

The last interesting portrayal of the character in a theatrical release was Mark Hamill's.


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I can't figure out what the hell this film is supposed to be. OK, it's about a homicidal "clown" who may call himself, or be called, "the Joker," but again, the Joker isn't supposed to be a guy wearing makeup. It really seems like the name "Joker" is being used to tell a story about a totally different character, even moreso than in The Dark Knight (or Suicide Squad, for that matter. Can you imagine the "real" Joker with all those tattoos and "bling"?). 
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Apparently, WB is dead serious about keeping this film's costs under control...
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