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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 7:52pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

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Christopher Frost
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His version of the Joker was terrible. Why they would want to make a movie based on it is beyond me. If Suicide Squad had been a big hit, then at least they could argue that his version was popular enough to warrant it, but as it stands, I don't see any call for this one.
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Charles Valderrama
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Warner Bros. management still doesn’t get it.

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Peter Martin
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If Suicide Squad had been a big hit, then at least they could argue that his version was popular enough to warrant it, but as it stands, I don't see any call for this one.
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I didn't like Suicide Squad and I thought Leto's Joker was terrible, but the film was a hit at the box office. It was in the top 10 hits for 2016 and wasn't far behind Deadpool, which is usually considered to be a big hit.

I think a movie based on Leto's Joker is likely to stink, but Warner Bros aren't totally crazy to think they can spin a profit from it.
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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 4:31am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I'm not sure any villain can carry a movie. I prefer them as antagonists. 

I know comics are different, but the Joker, surely one of the most popular villains ever, couldn't really sustain a comic (70s). Probably lasted fewer than 20 issues. At the time, I thought, 'Of all the villains I thought could carry a comic for a long time, it'd be the Joker.'

So I'm not convinced. Nor am I convinced by Sony rumours of solo movies for Mysterio and Kraven.
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Greg McPhee
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Isn't Mysterio being touted as the villain for the follow-up to Spider-Man: Homecoming?
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I agree with Robbie, i don`t want to see a Venom, Doctor
Doom, Joker or any other super-villain movie, i want
them as antagonists in the movies of Spider-man, FF,
Batman etc.
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 8:17am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

DC gave the Joker his own comic* in the Seventies, and were immediately presented with a problem: he basically had to lose to the good guys all the time.

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* Ironic, given how much effort Denny and Neal had to put into being allowed to bring him back.

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Greg McPhee
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DC gave the Joker his own comic* in the Seventies, and were immediately presented with a problem: he basically had to lose to the good guys all the time.

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One of whom was an actor who got a bump on the head from his own prop pipe and thought he was Sherlock Holmes!
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Robert Shepherd
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 6:15pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

No devil's advocate here. I did not like Leto's Joker at all. I do not like the villains starring in their own movies. Why do villains always have to be redeemable? I'm so sick of that cliche. It totally wrecks their threat level.

For once, I'll say right-off-the-bat, I'll pass on this one.


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Doug Centers
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

This is a BIG NO for me.

Leto's Joker was like nails on a chalk board for me in his short screen time
on Suicide Squad. I cannot imagine trying to sit thru 2 hours of him....shiver.
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Wow they are making Suicide Squad a franchise in its own right. Which should have been the Justice League, but I guess a movie about a bunch of psychos is their best bet at this point. 
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I cannot think of any version of the Joker that would be suitable for a star in a movie. I understand that rooting for a villain may be in the public's favor these days - look at our government - but the Joker is completely wrong for this.

And Jared Leto was wrong as the Joker. Period. It may not have been his fault; he can only work with the script and directing he was given. (I recall Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face... another horrific performance, but I don't think it was Jones' fault.)

You want a villain movie? Use Mr. Byrne's Lex Luthor. We have a corporate thriller with a building full of motivated and competent employees - but one finds out one of Luthor's plans and feels morally obligated to report it to the authorities, or to Superman if possible. It can go a dozen different directions, all exciting IMO.

Sure, it might seem a Superman movie without Superman (although there's no reason the Man of Steel couldn't be in it), but I think it would make a fantastic thriller, with a few options for how it ends. THERE'S your villain movie.

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Talk about a movie I really DON'T want to see.

If there was only a way to de-age Jack Nicholson to show the youngsters how it's properly done.
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Double the Jokers, double the jeopardy?





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So, apparently WB is doing some rebranding due to the lack of success of previous DC films.  This is not parody, they are planning to launch the two Joker movies under a new brand called either 'DC Dark' or 'DC Black'.

Well, maybe its self-parody, but they're actually going to do it.
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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

Downright depressing news! 

I quit SUICIDE SQUAD after about 30 minutes, having witnessed the single most awful thing I've ever seen on film: Jared Leto's Joker. Anyone who saw that and went "Yeah, let's have more of THAT" must be certifiable. 
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Posted: 13 June 2018 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | 18 post reply

So Joaquin Phoenix ??? Hmmm....he might be one actor who could pull off a "real" Joker, following Heath Ledger's awesome portrayal.

Leto sure didn't.

So I'm a pass on Leto, and a wait-and-see on Phoenix.


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Christopher Frost
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

This is now all up in the air anyways since the new guy in charge of the DC films apparently isn't happy with the state of things and wants to change things up.
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

I do think we need to remember in our criticism of Leto that I'm sure he didn't
write the script.
Now you could argue he agreed to it but who among us wouldn't be tempted
to be in a comic movie if we had the opportunity and maybe wouldn't read the
script closely enough.

On the topic of a Joker movie, I just don't see the Joker as having the kid of
personality to carry a film. Much like Gilbert Gottfried, how much maniaical
cackling can you take?
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Posted: 14 June 2018 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | 21 post reply

The only thing I could think of that would make sense to film would be a Joker origin movie. But do we really need yet another backstory reveal including a real name, and have to sit through an hour to an hour and a half plus before he actually becomes the Joker?


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Petter Myhr Ness
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I do think we need to remember in our criticism of Leto that I'm sure he didn't write the script.
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True, but it doesn't render his performance any less awful.
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