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Michael Sommerville Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 9:29am | IP Logged | 1
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Now that the Miss America pageant, I mean competition, will not be judged on physical appearance should Mr Olympia do the same. I do understand people should not be judged by his or her physical appearance, the exception should be when it is a competition on physical appearance.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 9:36am | IP Logged | 2
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Those bodybuilder competitions present a decidedly different set of parameters than the average beauty pageant. Altho the young ladies involved in the latter most certainly have devoted time and effort into shaping themselves into society's idea of female perfection, for the boys it's almost like a construction competition. They have literally reshaped themselves, like sculptors working in living clay. So much more intensive.Both are pointless and idiotic, imho, but they are quite different.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 9:40am | IP Logged | 3
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I have never seen the point of them, but I do know they have their fans.
In a recent interview, former WWF wrestler Bret Hart said this about bodybuilders:
Who likes bodybuilders? Talk about zeroes in life. I mean, there's nothing, I can't say anything good about bodybuilders at all. What a total waste of your life. There's the vanity all day, there's nothing special about bodybuilders other than they lift weights all day. It's like a beauty pageant.
I never had a fascination. I like a good physique and all - but to the point of being obsessed? The dieting and the whole thing - who cares? I don't see any ability or skill in it at all. Same with fashion models or runway models - I mean who really gives a damn? They're too skinny and they don't look as hot as they think.
He's not being diplomatic. Perhaps he should have been. But I have never quite understood such contests as described by the original poster.
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Michael Sommerville Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 9:48am | IP Logged | 4
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I was being facetious about the bodybuilders.
Edited by Michael Sommerville on 05 June 2018 at 9:50am
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 5
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A lot of work goes into the bodies of both competitions, as already stated, both are pointless and idiotic, but so is Cruft`s!
There has recently been discussion in British media as to why it seems socially acceptable for women to openly admire and ogle an attractive male body (Poldark being the example) but not for men to do the same when it`s a hot female.So judging a beauty pageant on appearance in my opinion is no worse then judging a body builder.
I used to work with a guy who was a bodybuilder, i knew him from school when he was the typical 6 stone weakling.He got buff, but abused steroids, which meant he looked odd as there was nothing he could do to make him taller! Then there was the obsession with the size of a particular guy`s thighs! (An American called Tom Platts?) Trying to get thighs as big as Tom, seriously strange obsession! I recently saw another old school friend on Facebook, he had pics of his body builder hobby, with his bald head, mahogany fake tan and exaggerated muscles he looked like a pair of tights stuffed with walnuts!
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Dave King Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 8:32pm | IP Logged | 6
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I used to lift tons of weights in my younger years. Ran like 6 miles a day ate lots of protein, took supplements, read every Arnold article , book i could get my hands on. Apparently you cant get that big without steroids. Got a hernia though.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 9:17pm | IP Logged | 7
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There has recently been discussion in British media as to why it seems socially acceptable for women to openly admire and ogle an attractive male body (Poldark being the example) but not for men to do the same when it`s a hot female.
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It's not acceptable? You just mean cat calling right? Something is going wrong if you can't say they look hot.
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 June 2018 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | 8
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There was an example before The Graham Norton Show where apparently the female BBC continuity announcer said Aiden Turner from Poldark was on, but unfortunately he was fully clothed, the debate was `What if a male announcer had said similar in reference to a female guest? Then we have a show called Loose Women which i think is similar to The View in the U.S.They often make lewd comments about `Hot` males, double standards?Personally the Politically Correctness of modern times does irritate me, we are after all, human and are wired up to admire the opposite sex (even the same sex) as long as it`s done without being threatening or offensive, i don`t think it`s a crime.
Edited by Bill Collins on 06 June 2018 at 7:32am
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Michael Sommerville Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 6:30am | IP Logged | 9
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Did JB predict the future again with the Krypton pages in Man of Steel.
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Shawn Kane Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 6:39am | IP Logged | 10
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I have a friend/mentor who loves lifting weights (he actually designed the the program for my high school football team in the 1980's) and he decided one year to try competitive bodybuilding. He won some competitions but said that it was such a miserable experience that he'd never do it again.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 06 June 2018 at 7:09am | IP Logged | 11
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There has recently been discussion in British media as to why it seems socially acceptable for women to openly admire and ogle an attractive male body (Poldark being the example) but not for men to do the same when it`s a hot female.--- It's not acceptable? You just mean cat calling right? Something is going wrong if you can't say they look hot. ••• A few decades back (yes, it's been going on that long!), I saw a then/now cartoon that addressed this. Man and woman in workplace. THEN: HE: Nice dress. SHE: Nice suit. NOW: HE: Nice dress. SHE: Law suit!!
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Bill Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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I must add a thing that shocked me, but also made me laugh...My 78 year old widowed mom has the infamous (In Britain at least) Poldark topless scything picture on her fridge!
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