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Robbie Parry
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One from each series, please.

Hypothetical this all is, I'm not saying they have to involve Abrams or his cast. Just pick an episode from each series that, in the right hands, would, in your humble opinion, make a good film. Include the animated series if you want (I've never seen it).

Mine are:

TOS: "By Any Other Name"
TNG: "Skin of Evil"
DS9: "The Assignment"
VOY: "Tuvix" 
ENT: "Regeneration" 
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Well, we already know THE CHANGELING would work. . . .
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Interestingly for me, I saw that after watching THE MOTION PICTURE. 
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Because of its storytelling potential, in terms of scope and relevance:

A TASTE OF ARMAGEDDON

(Though maybe not a crowd-pleaser!)





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TOS: Return to Tomorrow


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TOS: "Where No Man Has Gone Before"
TNG: "Yesterday's Enterprise"
DS9: --
VOY: "Endgame"
ENT: --

There are almost no episodes of the last three that I would ever want to go back and revisit, and the ones I do like tie back in with TOS in ways that would make film versions awkward. I'll chime back in with suggestions for DS9 and ENT should any occur to me.

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TOS: "The Doomsday Machine"


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On the other side of the coin, imagine the plot of THE VOYAGE HOME done in a 60s TOS episode! 
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Hmmmmm.........
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I get real nervous when the Chief hums like that.

I suspect he's planning to pull a reverse TMP on us and do a '60s photonovel equivalent to TVH.  I can imagine Scotty trying to talk to a pile of punch cards instead of a mouse...  :-)
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Now I am intrigued! 
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Contemplating the concept. Considerable restructuring would be needed, but it could be done -- except for the lack of "modern day" images. Obviously, to be true to TOS those would have to be circa 1966.
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Which begs the next question:

Could THE FINAL FRONTIER be retold as a successful "hour-long episode," instead of the 2-hour movie groaner that we're stuck with?





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TNG's "The Nth Degree" has some of the vibe of TFF.  

Hijacking a ship and taking it to God-knows-where (pun intended) only to find out that God isn't what you thought he was.

I'll admit I'd love to see younger, cockier TOS Kirk ask "What does God need with a star ship?"
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I think TMP showed us what making a TV episode into a movie would be like.
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As Richard Pini calls TMP, "Where NOMAD has Gone Before".
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>ENT: "Regeneration"

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I have sort of a fondness for this episode but I am not sure how this could be expanded into a two hour movie.

Include a battle between a Starfleet task force and the assimilated transport?

Have an actually Borg cube eventually show up?

Have several encounters between the Enterprise and the assimilated transport?

Thing is, Enterprise already screwed up canon with this episode (hiding it really weakly behind the Borg never saying their name which they actually did not in "Q Who" or that the message they sent would take two hundred years to arrive."

Personally I think "Regeneration" would make much more sense as an episode or movie set after the end of Voyager and Nemesis.
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Ugh, I just read that they want to have the Borg show up on DISCOVERY.

**Because the designers think it's cool and want to do it**

Might as well let the guy who wipes the fingerprint smudges off the tricorder props write the dialogue too...

All the more reason to have DISCOVERY set *after* TNG instead of coming up with contrived ways for people to not know (or forget) what race they are dealing with.   By and far the worst sins of ENTERPRISE are being repeated.   Again.

/RANT OFF

Now, as for a big screen Borg episode I would base it on "The Best Of Both Worlds" but add some bookends -- take a little bit of "Q-Who" to give the newbies some background, and take a little bit of "Family" to give it some closure -- or use the "Family" portion in the middle to give the ending some more resonance.

"Yesterday's Enterprise" would also work on the big screen but you'd need to pad out or beef up the opening section to give some contrast between the original timeline and the changed timeline.   Your audience is potentially both STAR TREK fans and some non-fans/newbs, so to make this a satisfying self-contained film you need  to work a little harder.   It's hard to jump right into just who Tasha Yar is without ruining the impact of Guinan realizing that Tasha shouldn't be there/hasn't actually met her -- perhaps a "Three years ago..." flashback/prologue showing her death and the impact it had on the crew.   There are ways to make stories that depend on the larger show narrative/lore work but I think you have to be careful that you don't either alienate non-fans or end up making awful STAR TREK and risk alienating the fans.


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