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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 1:54pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

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One writer doesn't do his homework, and Batman's backstory is changed forever. Or shall we just forget that Alfred entered the mythos AFTER Robin?

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Petter Myhr Ness
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Another prequel... it's like they go out of their way to make Batman shows WITHOUT Batman.
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I can't wait for the Willie Lumpkin mini-series coming out this fall, exploring his edgy backstory. 
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Well, in the comics, at least as far back as Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, Alfred has long preceded Robin as a fixture in Bruce Wayne's life (and it was stated that he had some kind of military background, along with some medical training). So that's pretty standard now. But this obsession with creating prequel shows around Batman and Superman is weird. Smallville was one thing, but now we also have Krypton and I hear they're developing a pre-Superman Metropolis show. And now just as Gotham announces a final season, we get this?

What's next? GOTHAM MEDICAL starring young med-student Thomas Wayne? LAW & ORDER: GOTHAM starring young attorney Harvey Dent?  THE KENTS, starring young newlyweds, John and Martha, running their farm?
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 2:35am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Those sound good, Jabari. ;-)

This doesn't interest me.

Why doesn't WB want Superman or Batman on TV? Yes, Superman does exist on TV, but not in his own show. There's KRYPTON and the forthcoming METROPOLIS, but no specific Superman show.

Same with Batman. He exists (in a sense) in GOTHAM, but with PENNYWORTH on the way, it's like they don't want Superman or Batman on TV.
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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 11:16am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

WB doesn't want a Superman or Batman TV series because they believe it would hurt the box office draw of their movie franchises.

For the record, I think these prequels are lame and giving Alfred his own show is ridiculous.

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Posted: 17 May 2018 at 11:27am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Well, in the comics, at least as far back as Frank Miller's Batman: Year One, Alfred has long preceded Robin as a fixture in Bruce Wayne's life...

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Yes, that was when it started. I was producing MAN OF STEEL around the same time, and it was very informative to watch Superman fans heads exploding, while Batman fans accepted even more sweeping changes without a blink. I had not previous realized there was such a divide between the two groups.

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 Charles Valderrama wrote:
WB doesn't want a Superman or Batman TV series because they believe it would hurt the box office draw of their movie franchises.

What a lame reason from them.

Note to WB: what a shame that I can't watch concurrent versions of something. No way will I get to the cinema to see a Batman film if he's got a weekly TV show. I couldn't make it to the cinema in '83 to see two Bond movies, plus there's no way I can keep up with Benedict Cumberbatch's SHERLOCK and the theatrical versions.
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... it was very informative to watch Superman fans heads exploding, while Batman fans accepted even more sweeping changes without a blink.

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Batman "fans" anger me.

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@Jabari Lamar:Or a series about a weather reporter with no superheroics of any kind, but, in the final episode (after 10 seasons) he/she reports that there's a storm coming - and the final scene is a lightning bolt heading towards a blonde haired forensic scientist!

OR a lonely physics teacher who uses science to solve crimes, and - in the final episode! - they hand back a paper they've graded "A++" to a young Reed Richards.

Ben & May Parker - the early years?

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Yes, that was when it started. I was producing MAN OF STEEL around the same time, and it was very informative to watch Superman fans heads exploding, while Batman fans accepted even more sweeping changes without a blink. I had not previous realized there was such a divide between the two groups.
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Yeah, no kidding. I’d say it goes beyond being an “Elvis” person or a “Beatles” person—I’ve noted certain tendencies in worldview and behavior that seem specific to either Superman or Batman fans. Like, people who love Batman also specifically hating Superman.
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Posted: 18 May 2018 at 4:02pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

 Steven Brake wrote:
Ben & May Parker - the early years?


DON'T REMIND THEM!!!!



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WTF!!!!
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In this particular case, the show could work. The Alfred Pennyworth character as presented on Gotham has a background in the military/special forces and is a fairly capable person. Clearly, the background of that version of the character would have some interesting stories to tell. It could work.
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To paraphrase Dolly Parton `Either shit, or get off the
potty`

I don`t want any more prequels featuring supporting
characters, i want Batman or Superman IN costume or
nothing!
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Posted: 31 May 2018 at 2:39am | IP Logged | 16 post reply

I wonder if it was so much about being a Superman or Batman fan as it
was about the creative talent involved. I recall JB becoming
“controversial” after (some might say because of) leaving X-MEN and
nitpicking the living daylights out of his “back to basics” approach to
FANTASTIC FOUR. Had the roles been reversed, would Superman
readers have been more accepting of Miller’s changes to that
character’s mythos and would Batman readers still bitch about JB’s
alterations just because it was John Byrne?
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