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Marc M. Woolman
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Posted: 20 October 2018 at 2:38am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I don't think you can compare
anything that has happened on
The Walking Dead,to the scene
of Ralph killing his pregnant
young girlfriend.

Much like a previous episode's
rape scene, The Soprano's
depicted the scene in a very
realistic manner.

No matter how gory the Walking
Dead might get, there is always
a huge suspension of disbelief
because the show is dealing
with Zombies.

Another important difference:
society in general REALLY does
not like to see violence
against women,and a young
pregnant woman ratchets that up
even more.

The Walking Dead has not shown
a pregnant woman get brutally
They've shown the after-
effects, female zombies, child
zombies, but they've stayed
away from actually showing a
zombie ripping apart a child or
pregnanct woman.

Edited by Marc M. Woolman on 20 October 2018 at 2:40am
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 01 November 2018 at 11:23pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

“Second Opinion”.

A very dense episode, with a lot of character stuff going on. Nice to see that Big Pussy’s death still looms over Tony and his world. The use of the Big Mouth Billy Bass (definitely a touchstone for the era the show was filmed in)—and Tony’s violent reaction to it—is a nice touch.

Of course, Tony continues to grapple with his guilt over Pussy’s death, Angie makes things worse by causing Carmella to start asking questions. The scene where Tony intimidates Angie into only mentioning her financial problems to him manages to be both funny and disturbing. He’s willing to continue to guilt-pay her, but he doesn’t want to have to think about why he’s paying her.

Meanwhile, we also another funny intimidation scene, as Tony and Furio press down on Dr. Kennedy to answer Uncle Junior’s calls. It’s very in-character to have the paranoid Junior suggest that Tony might be trying to steer him toward inferior cancer care just so he can take full control of the family. The irony, of course, is that Tony is going out of his way to flex his muscles at Kennedy just for the sake of Junior’s peace of mind.

The plot line with Chris enduring his probationary period under Paulie’s thumb continues to be amusing. Tony Sirico is always a joy to watch, man. And the shadow of Big Pussy’s death certainly extends to Chris’ humiliating strip-search for a wire.

Edie Falco really shines in this episode, and, subsequent to my viewing, I read that her performance in this episode led to her winning the Emmy for Best Lead Actress. She knocks this one out of the parks, since she veers effortlessly from concerned mother to vulnerable therapy patient to emotionally-drained wife (who calmly asks her mobster husband for one small allowance of $50,000 as payment for years of infidelity and lying). 
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Marc M. Woolman
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Posted: 02 November 2018 at 5:15am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

If it's the scene I'm thinking
of, you might have misread it
a bit.
Tony is paying Big Pussy's
wife, Angie, because it is an
accepted part of being the
boss of a family, not out of

While Tony obviously didn't
like Angie indirectly hitting
him up for more money, his
anger and frustration came
from seeing Angie is driving a
new and expensive luxury
vehicle, while crying hard

Tony and Furiou intimidating
Dr. Kennedy on the golf course
is pure gold gold, though!
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 02 November 2018 at 8:43am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I dunno, I think guilt is a factor in it. The scenes where Tony becomes enraged at the Billy Bass (because it reminds him of his fever dream of Pussy as a fish) and uncomfortably reaffirms his lie to Carmella about Pussy being in witness protection indicate his true emotions on the matter.

Yeah, he feels like Angie is unnecessarily hitting him up for extra cash, but also he takes a (relatively) softer touch with her than he normally might when he confronts her. There’s a sense of conflict in Gandolfini’s performance. It’s not purely anger and frustration over her encounter with Carmella. It almost reads to me like he’s more mad at her for making him think about Pussy and his death than it is about her and her behavior.
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