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Posted: 02 March 2018 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The very fact that "school shooting" has become a recurrent phrase in our society speaks to a deep rot in our national fiber.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 02 March 2018 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I'm going to blame Howard Chaykin! And Charles Bronson. And Clint Eastwood, and Charlton Heston, and John Wayne. Oh... and Rob Liefeld too.




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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 2:37pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

FFS (may be behind a paywall):


Okay, there may be some (no-one here, I'm sure) who will say that you cannot discriminate against a blind person, but one has to look at the logic here.

I mean, you wouldn't want an airline to start employing visually impaired pilots. You probably wouldn't want a Marine Police Unit to employ a cop who was prone to panic attacks - and who also had asthma. 

There are many, many things that disabled people, including those who are blind, can do and SHOULD be allowed to do, but I am struggling to see the logic in issuing guns to a blind person.


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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 3:39pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

With a semi automatic are you not virtually guaranteed to
hit your target? Never mind the collateral damage.
On a related note...who'd be a black teacher with a gun?
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Robbie - well, with a blind person, at least you'd know there's no question of their hitting a random target.

Bill C. - I agree with you, and I would ask, who'd be a teacher with a gun in any case? Your point is valid and pertinent... but I think it's also included in the Venn diagram of "Teachers" and "No guns."

On a tangent, I saw that Betsy DeVos, the Skepticrary of Education held a press conference at the Parkland school today. Not surprisingly, she got booed. A lot. But surprisingly, she called the press conference early and left in a huff.

Secretary of Education - how DARE you walk out on the Parkland Schools press conference? Because you got offended because they booed you?

Maybe you don't understand - a year and quarter hasn't shown any awareness - but you are not a person in your professional capacity. You are a government official, with a responsibility to those people who booed at you. You don't get to be offended, you don't get to be insulted,. You get to STAND THERE AND TAKE IT - because that's your job.

You represent the leadership in schools. If you can't take the heat, if you can't fulfill your responsibilities, if you don't care enough for education and schools - then maybe you shouldn't be that secretary in the first place, and maybe you should step aside in favor of someone who can do the job.

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Posted: 14 March 2018 at 12:20pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Well, this didn't take long to happen. Easily and widely predicted by the left, casually dismissed as liberal hysteria by the right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/1 4/teacher-accidentally-discharges-firearm-in-calif-classroom -he-was-trained-in-gun-use/?utm_term=.44e0daffd602

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Posted: 14 March 2018 at 1:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

It's not even clear if the school bothered to treat the student's injuries. 
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Posted: 14 March 2018 at 6:01pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Worth a watch:

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Charles Valderrama
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Here we go again....


The madness continues.

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Posted: 20 March 2018 at 11:29am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

The cows have left the barn long ago unfortunately. I know, how about an organization focused on safety and respect and... oops, also left the barn it would seem. :^(
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Posted: 23 March 2018 at 8:57am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Didn't take long for gun advocates to bring Nazi comparisons into the debate:



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Active shooter at YouTube HQ in San Bruno, Calif...


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