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Andrew Hess
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Posted: 09 February 2018 at 11:28am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

A self-taught Shakespeare scholar has uncovered a possible inspiration for some of the Bard's plays:

Plagiarism Software Uncovers Shakespeare Source


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It's well known that Shakespeare cribbed from many sources, including some published in languages the Stratford Man did not know.
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Michael Penn
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So... Shakespeare used George North's book.

George North wrote it while living at Kirtling Hall, Cambridge, the estate of Baron Roger North.

The same Lord North helped William Cecil Lord Burghley keep on eye on Burghley's son-in-law... Edward De Vere, who was, himself, related by marriage to Lord North.
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The Shakespeare authorship dispute would make for a great IDW series written and drawn by our host (hint, hint).
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The Shakespeare authorship dispute would make for a great IDW series written and drawn by our host (hint, hint).

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I touched on it in the most recent pages of NEXT MEN, Robbie.

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I know (and thanks) but am greedy for more! Too greedy at times! 
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Ted Pugliese
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Conversely, Michael, I wonder if this is to be used as
evidence to the contrary.
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I'm sure, Ted.

About George North's book -- I've never heard of it before -- which means nothing in as much as I'm not an Elizabethan scholar. But if it is now to be right up there with Holinshed's Chronicles as a source used by Shakespeare, I wonder how Shakespeare got his hands on it. George North was a minor diplomat. Was his "Rebellion" book a big deal (or any kind of deal) among... whom... his class? Beyond his class? What would have been North's readership?

And, as noted, George North through Lord North, had connections to both Burghley and De Vere. It certainly makes sense that De Vere could have had notice of it and gotten a copy, probably quite easily. (Holinshed's book, by the way, was dedicated to Lord Burghley, De Vere's father-in-law.)

I'm not an Oxfordian, to be clear. 

I just find it fascinating that any new discovery about Shakespeare makes him seem more mysterious. 

That De Vere's father-in-law was an incredibly prominent personage certainly makes connecting him to virtually anything of note during his time really not that mysterious. It's not proof of anything, but... interesting!

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Posted: 09 February 2018 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

It's not necessary to be an Oxfordian to realize that the Stratford Man simply does not work as Shakespeare.
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Posted: 09 February 2018 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Would someone mind editing the thread title? It's inaccurate, misrepresents the link, and is unfair to either William Shakespeare or The Author Of The Plays Popularly Attributed To The Stratford Man. While plagiarism software was used as a research tool, the article goes out of its way to clarify the researchers have not alleged plagiarism. And "Plagiarist" is misspelled.
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I found the article fascinating. It's so compelling that 400 years later we're able to come to this kind of convincing insight by re-purposing a decade-old technology into a book that had been effectively hidden on its own shelf for centuries. It's almost reassuring how much future scientists can learn about someone, just by looking at something like a stack of crumbling paper in a new way, and helps me feel a moving and tangible connection with our forebears.
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I liked the "self-taught scholar" part
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