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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 09 December 2017 at 11:51pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Robert Rodriguez directing a James Cameron production is intriguing, and I remember enjoying the manga, but I just don't think I'll be able to deal with the uncanny valley of this all. They've literalized Alita's anime eyes! It's freaky!

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David Allen Perrin
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Posted: 10 December 2017 at 4:20am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

But since Alita is a man made construct....I don’t think it ‘wrong’ for her to look like something not totally human.  Somehow it makes sense to me.  


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Rodrigo castellanos
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Posted: 11 December 2017 at 7:50pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I understand what they're trying to do there but it still looks weird, not in a good way.
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Posted: 11 December 2017 at 8:11pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Looking around on line a bit, I agree this is a bizarre choice, since all the characters in the comic have "manga eyes".
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Posted: 12 December 2017 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

It doesn't look entirely realistic, but I'm willing to ignore that as long as the rest of the movie is properly done. I love the concept of a used future crowded with cyborgs and robots and the ability to manipulate genes and brains in a way still not possible in the real world.

As for uncanny valley, I consider that to actually be two different phenomena. One is the look of the character and that it doesn't feel realistic enough to look completely real. Another is the body language, which does not seem to be a problem in this movie judging by the trailer. Have you seen voice actors giving voice to their CGI characters? The way they use their arms and hands is not something they would do in a real conversation with someone. This is often transferred to the CGI characters, even those who are not performance capture. And we see it on movies like Mars needs Moms. Characters in a live action movie would never have a body language like that.
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Posted: 12 December 2017 at 10:23am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Yeah, that just looks...wrong. 
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Olav Bakken
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It is possible this is a way to avoid the never-ending complaints about "white washing" and that the actors don't look enough like the characters they are playing. By using performance capture to make her look like a live action version of the comic book character, at least they can't complain about that.

The most bizarre example I have seen about CGI characters in a live action movie is probably Immortel, ad vitam (2004).
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 12 December 2017 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

It is possible this is a way to avoid the never-ending complaints about "white washing"

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While it is a Japanese manga series, BATTLE ANGEL ALITA took place in a post-Apocalyptic United States. Christoph Waltz's character was named Daisuke Ido in the comic, which would imply he was Japanese-American, but he was blond in the anime, so he seems to be properly cast as well.
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Posted: 23 July 2018 at 10:32am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Seems there's an "improved" ALITA trailer; word is they tweaked her eyes:


Less creepy, but it looks more interesting than before.

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Olav Bakken
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:33am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I really hope it becomes a big enough success to let us see either a sequel or another movie in the same subgenre. Like what I have seen so far.
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