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Jabari Lamar
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Posted: 24 July 2018 at 11:17am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I'm with you Kevin Brown. It looks like a fun movie, aimed more towards the younger audience. A nice change of pace from most modern superhero movies (especially the DC films). A friend said it reminded in of the Spy Kids franchise, in tone. I think that fits.

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Posted: 25 July 2018 at 5:37am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Watching the trailer again...and I find it odd that in ‘Shazam’s’ failed attempt to fly....he appears to have hurt himself in the fall.   How could that be?  ‘Shazam’ should be able to fall from many times that height and not feel a thing.  

Unless the story in the film is that his powers are not fully developed in that scene.....hence he can’t totally fly?

In any case....I’m not in a big hurry for this.  


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Posted: 25 July 2018 at 7:24am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Apparently the "wisdom of Solomon" doesn't get passed on to this version of Captain Marvel.
I like Zachary Levi but I wish they'd played this more like classic Captain Marvel, a combination of Billy's wide-eyed view of the world tempered by wisdom.
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Posted: 25 July 2018 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I strongly suspect that the majority of the scenes in the trailer all happen within the first 30 minutes of the movie.  So the "fully realized" Captain Marvel doesn't appear until the final third of the movie.  The hero who knows he can fly, has the wisdom, etc.
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Posted: 25 July 2018 at 10:31am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

The film's still 10 months away, I'm sure there's still plenty more to learn about it, which I expect to see in future trailers closer to the release date. Like we only briefly see Sivana, but no details of him or his plans in the film. And, apparently, Talky Tawny is actually in this film, I'm curious to how they pull that off. So far I'm just happy that it seems like they got the tone right (although I know that could easily be misleading too).

The only thing I don't think I'll ever get used to is the name, that he's actually called "Shazam" now. I understand the reasoning of not wanting to use the name Captain Marvel anymore, but I would have rather that they'd come up with a new superhero name, like Captain Magic or something.
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Posted: 25 July 2018 at 10:47am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

97% of any movie-going "civilian" would continue to call him "Shazam", anyway.

I grew up with a bunch of comic readers that insisted on calling him that, even though he was referred to as "Captain Marvel" throughout any book he was in.

I would even try to correct them. 
You mean, "Captain Marvel?" 
"No, Shazam! The boy says his name and turns into him!" 

The 70's live-action starring Captain Marvel was also titled "Shazam!"  Probably didn't help. 


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Yeah, I know that was the reasoning they used back when they changed it in the comics. So I knew this was coming in the film. Still bugs me.

Anyway, I stopped at my 68 year old mother's place on my way home from work (this is the woman who introduced me to the Marvel Family via those old Viewmaster  reels when I was little kid), and I showed the trailer to her on my phone. She loved it (it helps that she was a huge fan of the "Chuck" TV show), and wants to see the film. 
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Posted: 25 July 2018 at 9:32pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

How odd that there will be 2 Captain Marvel movies within the same year.
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Posted: 26 July 2018 at 10:17am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I also had those Viewmaster reels.

You'll notice in the link the name "Captain Marvel" is not used anywhere on the front or back of the sleeve. 
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Posted: 26 July 2018 at 11:05am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Shazam! reveals first details on the film's mysterious villain
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Posted: 26 July 2018 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

My wife is a big fan of Zachary Levi and enjoyed the trailer a lot. Not sure if she will fork over money for a ticket when it comes out, but at least it got her attention.

I didn't see much in the trailer that appealed to me. I like Levi okay in the role (he was terrific in the TV series CHUCK) but my dislikes were many...

1) The obviously padded suit, which gives the character a rather campy image. Levi is tall enough to play the role, and we know that Christopher Reeve hit the gym to build up his physique (some say as much as adding 30 lbs.) to play Superman back in 1978. Why we couldn't have given Levi the same chance is beyond me, especially given the advances in training and nutrition that Reeve didn't have but are now available to every actor in Hollywood. The padding looks cartoonish and if that is the look the director was going for then okay. But given a few more weeks in the weight room I think Levi could have pulled it off without the addition of styrofoam.

2.) The total absence of any Solomonic wisdom, the overall lack of maturity, and the bumbling tests to access his powers were miles distant from the Captain Marvel that I know from the 70s/80s. The Big Red Cheese from my youth was accomplished at using his powers as soon as the lightning bolt hit. The testing scenes are obviously inserted for humorous purposes to appeal to the kids in the audience. But the character has been around for as long as Superman and ignores the fact that the older audience members would look at those scenes as being out of place, even if it is only in a trailer.

3.) The Superhero-As-Battery-Charger scene... If this is the way the character is now being portrayed in DC Comics then I am glad I gave up collecting them over five years ago. A truly stupid sight gag that compounds the maturity problem I mentioned above.

4.) The way Billy Batson is portrayed as a juvenile delinquent. That may be the way the current version is being marketed but the Billy I first met on the page 30+ years ago had a good head on his shoulders and was a solid guy of good character. That is one of the reasons that Shazam decided to grant him the powers of the immortals in the first place. He wasn't trying to reform Billy by giving him superpowers, he was ensuring that the power was given to someone who was essentially "good" and would always try to act that way. The Billy Batson shown in the trailer wouldn't have merited a second glance from the old wizard.

I can only hope the next trailer (and the months remaining before the release date) manages to put the character back on azimuth. Otherwise this movie is going to end up being a discount rental option for me instead of a must-see on the silver screen.


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The wizard Shazam has (only)been race-swapped.  A step forward considering what happened to the Ancient One?
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