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Posted: 24 October 2017 at 7:01am | IP Logged | 1  

I may have to add Fox News to Wikipedia as references that will get posts deleted.
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Kevin Brown
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I think Wikipedia is more accurate and reliable than Fox "news".
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I can't even say "Fox News" with a straight face!! they're so desperate to talk about anything other than Trump's piss-poor presidency, and when they do, it's undeserved praise.

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I can honestly say that TMZ does a more thorough job reporting than Fox, IMHO.
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I don't think people are disbelieving the news about Trump because they support him or distrust the news agencies. More likely the public is so overwhelmed by the coverage of Trump's idiocies that they are tuning out. Not the press's fault. It's just a consequence of a Bizarro World president. 
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I agree:


I've actually fact-checked some claims made by 45. He is clearly lying on some issues, but like any narcissist, he won't accept it, nor will his supporters.
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Peter Martin -
"How much uranium from Uranium One Inc has been exported to Russia since this deal? The answer is none. It has all stayed in the US. If you read through the information, you will see that Uranium One has to obtain a specific licence in order to export anything outside the US. Furthermore, Russia was not interested in Uranium One for its US mines (which cannot provided enough even for the US); it was for the Kazakh mines that Uranium One owns. So hardly a case of handing over US uranium to Russia. It was a case of not blocking a deal between a partially Russian-owned (but still publicly-listed) company at a time when relations with Russia were more cordial and Putin had stepped aside in favour of Dmitiri Medvedev. They did not, at the time, have the power of hindsight to know Russia would invade Crimea, etc. The improvement in relations allowed the US to use Russian land to provide supplies to the American military in Afghanistan. [Edited to add: we should also not over-egg Hillary's ability to unilaterally control this deal one way or the other. She was potentially a large voice in a committee that then recommended action to the President, who had the power of veto. It is not a matter of record whether she actually got involved in the committee, but it seems safe to assume she would have been involved in such an important matter].

"Regarding the foundation and foreign contributions while Hillary Clinton was  Secretary of State, the foundation had to publicly disclose all contributors. This is hardly the actions of trying to conduct secret deals, but let's say the donations were intended to ease the wheels for approval of the Uranium One deal. Would restricting the freedom of the press in the future make such murky transactions less or more likely?"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton -foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-compa ny.html

Mr. Christensen, 65, noted that despite assurances by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that uranium could not leave the country without Uranium One or ARMZ obtaining an export license — which they do not have — yellowcake from his property was routinely packed into drums and trucked off to a processing plant in Canada.

Asked about that, the commission confirmed that Uranium One has, in fact, shipped yellowcake to Canada even though it does not have an export license.

Instead, the transport company doing the shipping, RSB Logistic Services, has the license. A commission spokesman said that “to the best of our knowledge” most of the uranium sent to Canada for processing was returned for use in the United States.

A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent had gone to Western Europe and Japan. At the moment, with the uranium market in a downturn, nothing is being shipped from the Wyoming mines.

The “no export” assurance given at the time of the Rosatom deal is not the only one that turned out to be less than it seemed. Despite pledges to the contrary, Uranium One was delisted from the Toronto Stock Exchange and taken private. As of 2013, Rosatom’s subsidiary, ARMZ, owned 100 percent of it.


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So, the liberal media are or are not attempting to scrutinize the Clinton foundation?
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And regarding shipping uranium via a company with a licence to Canada and then back into the States -- to what degree would you say this tallies with "turned over 20% of the world's uranium to Russia"?
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Peter Martin - So, the liberal media are or are not attempting to scrutinize the Clinton foundation?

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Only after Peter Schweitzer's book came out.

Also, you might want to read the part about undisclosed donations in the article.



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Peter Martin - "And regarding shipping uranium via a company with a licence to Canada and then back into the States -- to what degree would you say this tallies with 'turned over 20% of the world's uranium to Russia'?

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They have control of it which means we don't, period. 

And now that the company is 100 percent owned by ARMZ, they don't have to be as transparent as a publicly traded company.

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Only after Peter Schweitzer's book came out.

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Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich Hardcover – May 5, 2015

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal By JO BECKER and MIKE McINTIRE APRIL 23, 2015 



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