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Paul Kimball
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I ask, seriously, are asexual people discriminated against? (And if so, how?)

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not to the same degree as racial discrimination but I would assume they are
looked as "less than" other people based on some comments I've heard.
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Robbie Parry
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Who would know a person was asexual, Paul? Unless that person told them.

A gay couple, holding hands whilst walking in a park, might receive verbal abuse. As would, say, a transgender person. But an asexual person...well, I might have passed many whilst walking in a park. I would not have known they were asexual. 

Not saying abuse could NEVER happen, but the guy or woman in a bar/park/on a bus could be asexual. We'd likely never know.
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

They are going to run out of letters in the alphabet. 
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Byron Graham
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 6:33pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I don't even understand why lesbian and gay needs to be differentiated. Seems like this ever-growing acronym is trying so hard to be inclusive that it creates more divisions to label folks.


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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I don't even understand why lesbian and gay needs to be differentiated. Seems like this ever-growing acronym is trying so hard to be inclusive that it creates more divisions to label folks.

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Try explaining that "homosexual" means men AND women!

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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 6:43pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Who would know a person was asexual, Paul? Unless that person told them.

A gay couple, holding hands whilst walking in a park, might receive verbal abuse. As would, say, a transgender person. But an asexual person...well, I might have passed many whilst walking in a park. I would not have known they were asexual. 

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Discrimination ≠ verbal abuse

The issues that asexuals deal with are akin to the issues that of atheists in the US, where they are, as Paul stated, looked at as "less than". The Gallup polls in recent years have consistently shown that the American public would more likely vote a Muslim President than an Atheist one, which is kinda impressive given the prevalent Islamophobia in the West. Similarly, there are studies showing that people have negative opinions of a person if all they are told is that person is asexual.

The other issues are visibility and erasure, in the same way that bisexuals have to deal with both straights and gays telling them that they are either straight people going through a phase or gay, asexuals have to deal with being told that they just haven't found the right sexual partner yet or that they just have sexual hang-up.

This does not equate to hate crimes, but this isn't equal treatment either.
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

English speakers can get confused between the Greek homos ("same" = homosexual) and Latin homine ("man" = homicide).





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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 8:10pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Used to drive me nutz when the common phrase was "homosexuals and lesbians". One of my high school gal pals could not get it at all, even when I pointed out that if the "homo" meant "man" then straight women would be homosexuals!
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Christopher Frost
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

What the hell is "intersex" ?
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Brian O'Neill
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

"intersex" used to be called "hermaphrodite"(or 'morphodite', as Archie Bunker, and many others influenced by him, mispronounced it).
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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 17 September 2017 at 10:02pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Intersex people are born with ambiguous genitalia. (Can't think of a better word than "ambiguous.")

Almost 100% of the time they receive surgery soon after birth so that they can easily be assigned male or female.

This can lead to serious psychological issues down the road.

It's always existed. It's a perfectly "legit" category.
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Adam Schulman
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BTW, adding the "Q" to LGBT always seemed a bit redundant to me. "Queer" is just another word for "lesbian, gay or bisexual." (Sometimes trans people identify as queer, sometimes not.) 
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