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Ron Goad
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 11:40am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

That was definitely not the best of TNG!
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Joie Simmons
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Nemesis felt like it was filmed not only behind a deep, dark filter, but
in slow motion.
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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

"Li'l Picard"

Great. Now I've got images of a LI'L ARCHIE-esque all-kids TNG
(drawn in a Bill Watterston kind of style) running through my head.
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Rob Ocelot
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Posted: 31 August 2017 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Not quite the same thing, but one of the few episodes I watched all the way thru involved Picard, Guinan and some other crew being turned into children by a transporter glitch. Eventually they were "restored", but not after some sturm und drang about Li'l Picard being unsuited for his role as Captain, even tho he retained his full memories and skills!

Given Starfleet's lip service to inclusion of different alien cultures who have differing abilities (number of digits, limbs) this one really struck me as hypocritical.   If Picard were rendered disabled in an accident but still had his mental and communicative faculties he could still effectively lead a star ship and engage in diplomacy.  He rarely went on away missions anyway.   Meanwhile Riker can't shoo away the offers to command his own ship fast enough, yet he looks like he needs to cut down on the Romulan donuts.  Think he could keep up on a physical away mission after Season 4?   

Then again, there was also resistance to Data being in charge of a ship -- the crew who resisted his command probably should have been court-marshaled for discriminatory behavior.   Quite the double standard, but I guess it makes for better television drama.

Incidentally, they do tackle the subject of ageism in TAS: THE COUNTER CLOCK INCIDENT, though in this case the crew are reverse aging to children (and beyond) and losing their skills.  A now-young Robert April is able to step in and take command, but when the adventure is finished and everything is restored it's back to April being 'too old' to lead a ship.  <sigh>  

Edited by Rob Ocelot on 31 August 2017 at 3:34pm
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Brad Teschner
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Lots of things didn't work in Nemesis for me...Baird was not a good fit and the
script needed another pass. I didn't really enjoy Jerry Goldsmith's score on any
of the post-TMP films and the decision to NOT use ILM for Insurrection and
Nemesis just baffles me.

The Data/B-9 storyline is so contrived and the dune-buggy scene was just
stupid. And what was the point of the assault on Deanna Troi?!? Maybe the
movie addressed it...I don't remember.

It seems like they were shooting for scope with the 10th film but man did they
drop the ball.
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