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Carmelo Bazaco
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I don't even know how to react to this, but what really boggles the mind is how the company that employs this guy has not issued a follow-up statement of any kind. Are we to assume that the OFFICIAL tag is real? Is this really how the bosses at Marvel/Disney feel?
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Kevin Brown
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That IS Stephen Wacker's Twitter account, it's not a fake account. And, no, I am not surprised he feels that way.
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Mario Ribeiro
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 8:11am | IP Logged | 3
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Should they feel that the only real fans are the ones who've reading Marvel for decades?
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 8:11am | IP Logged | 4
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I think the world would be much better if everyone ignored crazy policy announcements made on Twitter. But that discussion belongs in another thread.
If he's trying to say that Marvel Comics should be welcoming to new readers and that older readers shouldn't feel entitled to the characters, I don't disagree with that sentiment, but he said it really stupidly, and more importantly, it's not reflected in what Marvel is putting out.
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Robert Bradley
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 8:47am | IP Logged | 5
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I think he's trying to say that the new fans are just as important to the company as long-time fans are as far as insuring the company's success.
I guess.
I don't know how it makes any sense or why anyone would ever say it though. You have to keep brand loyalty in mind when you say something like this.
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Gundars Berzins
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 9:44am | IP Logged | 6
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Is he tr.. ah all I've got is... sigh.
Edited by Gundars Berzins on 31 July 2017 at 12:45pm
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J W Campbell
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Way to take a remark out of context.
This response was off the back of a wave 'men's rights' trolls dogpiling Heather Antos on Twitter, some of whom would use the length of time they'd been fans to prove that they knew what 'real' Marvel was about and thus try to justify some pretty vile misogyny they were throwing at her.
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Anthony J Lombardi
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I really don't see the problem with that. You don't measure fandom by the amount of time one has been reading comics. The person reading comics for 5 minutes could be a 10 year old discovering Spider-Man for the first time. Their imagination could be exploding with wonderful dreams about the wall crawler. Where as someone who has been reading for five decades could hate the direction that Spider-Man has gone in.
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Anthony J Lombardi
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 10:04am | IP Logged | 9
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Way to take a remark out of context.
This response was off the back of a wave 'men's rights' trolls dogpiling Heather Antos on Twitter, some of whom would use the length of time they'd been fans to prove that they knew what 'real' Marvel was about and thus try to justify some pretty vile misogyny they were throwing at her. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I just read about this on facebook. The poor girl did nothing wrong and a bunch of jerks attacked her for no reason. The whole thing is just so pathetic.
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 10:16am | IP Logged | 10
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Way to take a remark out of context. This response was off the back of a wave 'men's rights' trolls dogpiling Heather Antos on Twitter, some of whom would use the length of time they'd been fans to prove that they knew what 'real' Marvel was about and thus try to justify some pretty vile misogyny they were throwing at her.
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The MRA guys are assholes.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 10:35am | IP Logged | 11
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I think he's trying to say that the new fans are just as important to the company as long-time fans are as far as insuring the company's success.•• Sounds like it to me. In which case, I agree.
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Robert Bradley
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| Posted: 31 July 2017 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 12
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JB - I would agree that if an entertainment company wants to be viable, especially one of this sort, they have to bring in new customers.
The product they put out in the 1960's was designed for this, but eventually they evolved into a business aimed at collectors and speculators, so that ship has sailed.
And clearly being a long-time fan doesn't entitle anyone to be abusive to writers and artists. I don't think to many of us would enjoy having customers/clients attacking our employees online, no matter how long they've been patronizing our business.
"The customer isn't always right."
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