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Brian Rhodes
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Figured it would come down to Thanos sans any Infinity Stones vs. a madder-than-ever Hulk claiming he is the strongest one there is and beating the purple out of him.
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I donít want a weakened Thanos. Without the glove, yes, but not weakened. Then I want ďthe madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk getsĒ and want him to beat the shit out of Thanos. 
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Without the glove would make for a weakened Thanos, at least in comparison with the Thanos who smashed the Hulk at the start of Infinity War. 

I just brought up the character of Governor Kodos from Star Trek's "Conscience of the King" in another thread, and something occurred to me: Kodos/ Thanos... Preservation of resources through the reduction of population... One half of the population, to be precise. "There were over eight thousand colonists and virtually no food..." "Children watching their parents die. Whole families destroyed. Over four thousand people. They died quickly, without pain. But they died." Just saying is all...

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Without the glove, Thanos would be beaten by Thor easily.  The Hulk would, well, smash him to bits
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I feel Drax finishing off Thanos would be the most satisfactory choice if a character must kill him.
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I may be completely off the mark here, but I thought when Thanos
finally activated the full power of the glove, his veins coursed with the
rainbow colours of the gems, and then the glove appeared worn and
decayed.
I assumed the glove is now just a dead piece of junk and the power is
within Thanos himself.
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If WB buys Marvel Studios/Marvel Comics, then the best thing would be for Darkseid to show up and obliterate Thanos with his Omega Beams! 
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Well, as much as I found the initial viewing thoroughly exhausting to sit through, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it, and it's certainly been one of the bigger water-cooler comic-book event movies since, well, BLACK PANTHER, really... so I told my son we may try to catch this a second time within the next few weeks.

I'm still not convinced it's great filmmaking, but as a superhero crossover spectacular, it certainly did the job well.



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Shaun, I agree that it stays with you. Been fun to sort of re-run bits and pieces in my mind. The dread that runs through it; just how much screentime Thanos gets compared to everyone else; the quiet poetry of its deadly ending.

It's gonna be a long wait for the next part. Kinda wish they'd have it ready for Christmas. 
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I saw it last night. Pretty well done. Way too many explosions and not enough
dialogue(talking head as they are called here sometimes) for adult me but 10yr
old me would've thought it the best movie ever.
Still pretty good and I enjoyed it.
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Well, they solved the villain problem in this one. Thanos was basically the only character with a coherent arc throughout the movie, the Avengers, GoTG et al basically being reduced to co-stars. 

I enjoyed it as a spectacle and it had a lot of great moments. But it's impossible to watch it without having seen basically every MCU movie ever made, which makes it the equivalent of the convoluted comic books that ultimately made me walk away from them. 
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"Impossible to watch"?

 In no way is this a standalone film, but you don't need to have seen THE INCREDIBLE HULK, THOR, ANT MAN, IRON MAN 2 or 3 or even SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING to watch and enjoy INFINITY WAR.
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Agreed. Not standalone, but I think you could understand everything going in cold. You wouldn't have the investment, but you certainly would be able to intuit many of the relationships.  Tony/Pepper Quill/Gamora, etc.
A viewer probably should see a number of the previous MCU movies, but I think they did a surprisingly good job to accommodate a new viewer considering they actually were trying to tie everything together in the run-up to this.
I was talking with a friend about this just last night. How many movies do you think would be necessary to get "the whole experience" (investment, etc.) and not just enjoy it as an action film? Nine at most?  Could you get it down to five or three?
I'd think the first "must see" would be the first Avengers movie, because that introduces an infinity stone, Thanos and a bag of the characters...
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Are there many people going in to see this film cold?
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I didn't hear a single soul complain about the Bourne films even though you couldn't have possibly felt as much about the franchise coming into it with THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM as you did if you began the franchise with THE BOURNE IDENTITY.  But that franchise, like Marvel, allows you to enjoy it without seeing everything.  Anyone who posits that you have to watch a decade of Marvel films to "get" what's happening in INFINITY WAR is off their rocker.  Seriously.  You need a bare-bones knowledge of the films to understand them.  If you want deeper meaning, it's there for you as well...but you don't need it.  To claim otherwise, to say that you need to know why Thor doesn't have his hammer or why he's missing an eye, to be confused about Tony Stark's relationship with Pepper Pots because you skipped eight films, or to wonder about the importance of the Infinity Stones because you haven't seen any other Marvel Film is, I'm sorry, ludicrous.  

You can intuit what's important and what is not.  You can follow the story, because it's laid out for you with an entire scene about Cap and Co. being fugitives, or Gamora laying out her lineage to Thanos.  Even if you didn't give two shits and a bucket of wine about anything Marvel (to which I'd then ask why are you watching a Marvel film?), you don't need to understand it all in order for it to be a good film.  That said, the conceit of this genre has always been its interconnectivity to every other film and, as such, they aren't going to waste valuable screen time giving you "previously on's" for other films.  They just aren't.  At $1.2 billion and counting, I think this recipe is working.  Anyone who complains that they are "left out" because they haven't seen a film is, I'm sorry, a wanker.  They just want to complain because they can not because it's right or prudent.  My two cents on the whole franchise/serial aspect of INFINITY WAR.
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Somewhere, someone from DC is thinking Damn, we should have used Darkseid sooner!
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Matt, I thought "off their rocker" and "wanker" were terms Brits used. You've been hanging around with too many Brits. ;-) (Or did those terms originate in the US?).

I agree that everything was accessible. I know this because a friend of mine has seen very few MCU films. She's "late to the party". The other day, she was talking about wanting to get the early MCU films at a car boot sale or from Amazon (she's retired and can't afford many DVDs). But from what she told me, she enjoyed it on its own merits. 

 John Byrne wrote:
Somewhere, someone from DC is thinking Damn, we should have used Darkseid sooner!

I thought that, too. WB are really going to have to knock people's socks off with a Darkseid that is evil, but doesn't invite comparisons to the MCU's Thanos. 
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The use of wanker shows we are sharing our culture`s
more freely nowadays! I was shocked when Spike used it
a lot in Buffy!
As for those complaining at being `left out`...welcome
to the internet where everyone is `special` and wants
their specific needs catered too! I have a particular
irritation about `Gluten free` and Vegan SJW`s!
A case in point, a certain U.K. chain has released a
`Best Ever Burger` where buyers and chefs have been to
the U.S. searching for inspiration for the ultimate
burger recipe, this particular one has a hint of bone
marrow in it.On the Facebook promotional page, i
looked at the comments and an idiot suggested a
vegetarian version of it! I said that`s like asking
for a Mars Bar(Milky Way in the U.S.) without the
chocolate, caramel or mallow, whatever it is, it isn`t
going to be the best ever burger!
Then there was the idiot who asked if they would
consider selling chocolate free Easter eggs for those
who don`t like chocolate...they do it`s called a hen`s
egg! ;-)
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I have a particular
irritation about `Gluten free` and Vegan SJW`s!
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Hey it's a business. if they want more customers then catering to a wider
range makes sense. Offering a vegan or gluten free option doesn't mean they
have to get rid of the burger you like.
I like Kim Chee but I don't attack people who ask if you can make it out of
jicama or call them SJW.
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sorry I got off topic. Must've been the influence of the mind stone.
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Paul, i have my reasons! Will say no more because of
thread drift!
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I have to echo Bill Collins:  Is anyone really bothering to see INFINITY WAR without seeing any of the previous films?

Isn't that sort of like watching a TV series finale, and wondering why you can't follow some of the plot and characters?



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I saw Empire strikes back as a kid before I saw Star Wars. You figure it out.
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I saw EMPIRE before STAR WARS as well. My sister came into the franchise with ROTJ. 
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It opened this weekend here in Beijing. Saw it last night. Still
processing it.
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