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David Miller
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Posted: 28 August 2017 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The revelation about Diane was a heartbreaker. I'd come to like her a great deal and to learn she'd been raped and murdered many years ago and we'd been interacting with some foul, perverted memory... Yikes. 


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Didn't Diane say she was at the sheriff's office? Maybe she has something to do with the woman in the Twin Peaks jail cell.

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o D I A N = N A I D o

I've seen crazier things.
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DIANE and NAIDO are also almost anagrams of LINDA. But EVANS doesn't help us at all.

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One one of the other message boards people did a whole run of them:

Candie = Diane-C for example.


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Oh, I like this about Candie! I was just thinking that we'll probably never see her again, though.
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"I am the FBI." -- Who didn't cheer at that?
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Posted: 29 August 2017 at 12:15am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Yes! Excellent episode - one of the best. Cooper's back! But what the heck is going on with Audrey?! 
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Audrey most likely was sexually assaulted by an evil version of the man she was obsessed with for a time, and gave birth to a devil child...makes me wonder if she's in the nuthouse.  It would then follow that a number of the Roadhouse scenes were part of her dream and some of them were not.  Can't wait for next week. If nothing else, this show hasn't been predictable!
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Coop may actually return to his home planet next week. 
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Posted: 29 August 2017 at 6:39pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I hope they make another season.
Just two weeks with Copper seems unfair, he is the heart and soul of Twin Peaks.
We need more!
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Posted: 03 September 2017 at 8:15pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

So awesome.
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I hated the end.
Floating ball with Bob's face?
Dream inside a dream?
Time travel?
I mean...

Lost was my greatest disappointment until now.
Lynch is just like that girl we are crazy about but she is always letting us down, but eventually she takes us to the moon and back.
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Hear my slow, baffled applause. I can't wait to experience this as an 18 hour movie.
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Marcio,, it's funny you should mention LOST. At one point watching TWIN PEAKS's finale tonight, I thought to myself out of nowhere, You know, the LOST finale was okay. 
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I gave up on this series after episode three. I was watching one of the scenes, not having a clue what was going on and just thought 'I can't be bothered with this anymore'. So I stopped.

I loved TWIN PEAKS when it first came out, I think the 'It is happening again' scene was genius. But I had found this just indulgent and confusing. I just didn't have the time anymore to put in to try to figure it out.

I haven't read a single thing since that makes me think I made a bad decision. 
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Posted: 04 September 2017 at 4:39am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

There are 51,201 stories in Twin Peaks. This has been one of them.
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I thought to myself out of nowhere, You know, the LOST finale was okay. 
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Exactly!
My disappointment settings were updated after watching the end.
In a way it was fun to think about it as a tribute to the old science fiction movies, but I think the "Bob orb" was too much.
Evil cooper went down so easily that my first reaction was: "seriously???"
And Diane?
And why the romantic scene with Cooper?
And Audrey?
And so many little "mysteries" unanswered that indeed it made Lost look like it had a coherent and satisfactory plot.
Honestly, it makes me feel like it was just pure laziness and disrespect from David Lynch and the producers. In an 18 hour movie we will probably have almost one hour of car driving scenes without any meaningful dialogue. Episode 18 must have been one of the cheapest episodes in history of modern television. It was just Cooper, Diane, Laura and some random characters.
In one word, the finale was LAME.

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Posted: 04 September 2017 at 6:25am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

Best comment so far:
"Think twice before you buy into Lynch's senile, random bullshit next time."


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Nothing was random.  I'm frankly baffled that people expected David Lynch to wrap everything up neatly for them and put a bow on it.  As if he has ever done that.  Also, as somebody who watched the original finale, which was filmed as a finale, and consisted entirely of a series of cliffhangers, then went to the movie for answers and found a very disturbing prequel that just added a bunch more, this is about what I was expecting.  What made Twin Peaks Twin Peaks was that we had 750 pieces of a 1000 piece puzzle, and a hundred of them looked like they were from a different puzzle all together.  So we got to spent 25 years theorizing and trying to put things together in different ways.

Here's my understanding of the finale:  Cooper completed his return to Twin Peaks, which was the major arc, and Bob/DoppelCoop were defeated.  By innocence.  Coop, after having traveled to the Black Lodge and other worlds, however, had achieved what Wyndham Earle had been trying to achieve, he had become the magician, which is why Gerard requotes the poem to him.  In season 1, he was a passive initiate, visited by the Giant and given visions, now he is a practitioner who can initiate action.  As shown in the case of making the tulpa Dougie Jones, Cooper is committed to using his newfound abilities to not just stop evil, but to try to undo evil.  To give happy endings instead of sad ones.  What he doesn't understand is that the Giant, like the other white lodge spirits, is a Fireman.  He puts out fires, but he can't restore the damage they've done.  Remember, Bob is Fire.  So Coop leaves his friends and travels through the worlds, first attempting to go back in time and save Laura, in order to undo all the tragedies that have happened around Twin Peaks.  It doesn't work.  So he concludes that he needs to go even further back, with Diane, to when Bob first entered the world, in order to stop all of the evil which he caused.  The sex scene with Diane is there to represent the fact that there's no going back.  The damage is done.  She can't just forget having been raped by a man with Cooper's face.  Note that the music playing during it is the same song interrupted by the Lumberjack in ep. 8.  Then we flash forward, with Coop having changed all kinds of events in the past, and he finds who he thinks is Laura, who is in a completely other place leading a completely different life due to his actions.  The fact that new Laura has apparently just murdered someone shows that Cooper hasn't been successful.  So he tries to reunite her with her mother, and can't because now her mother isn't there.  Most of the final episode is this quixotic quest of Coop's to defeat Judy, evil itself in the world, and in his confusion at the very end, it begins to sink in that he can't.  He can only put out fires.  Which is what the Fireman Giant was trying to clue him in to in the very first scene of the Return.  You can fight back against evil, and fight the good fight against those who do evil, but you can't defeat evil itself, or uproot it from human hearts.
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Posted: 04 September 2017 at 9:24am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

Yeah, my thoughts and feelings are similar to Steve's.

And one week between eps. 17 and 18 wouldn't have hurt. They're so different!
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Best comment so far:

"Think twice before you buy into Lynch's senile, random bullshit next time."

Where's the "like" button?

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Never watched any iteration of TWIN PEAKS. I think the breathless 'O Faced' media  hype over the original(David Lynch!...Kyle McLachlan!...the coffee shop!..Laura Palmer! *change undies*) was the first step down the rabbit hole of show biz 'infotainment' taking over news programming.

At some point, it should just be considered acceptable to say 'David Lynch is fucked in the head' and let it go at that.
"Oh, but he's a GENIUS! You FAIL to GRASP the ARTISTIC RISK-TAKING and.."
Yeah. Fuck you, Lynch 'cognoscenti'. I'll pass.
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Best comment so far:

"Think twice before you buy into Lynch's senile, random bullshit next time."

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To be honest, that's kinda how I feel abour Ridley Scott these days.

As for Twin Peaks, looks like we've just swapped one unsatisfying cliffhanger ending for another. Poor Kyle McLachlan. He did everything that was asked of him this season, and did it well. And he'll be rewarded with fans pestering him about that ending for the rest of his days. As with the soft ratings, I doubt we'll get a followup series that concludes it.

What is it with these creators who get a valuable second chance to give their works a proper conclusion, and screw it up in favour of leaving it open for more? Chris Carters done the same, twice now for X-Files, and now we can add David Lynch to the same wall of infamy for jerking their audiences around.

Oh well. Maybe I could just pretend it ended about half an hour into the second last episode. I think that would have been a bit more satisfying.

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I'm a big fan of Lynch so I'll be giving this show a try soon.
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