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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 12 October 2017 at 9:36pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It's official. This is hands down my favorite new show.


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Cool article, thanks, Greg!
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Credit where credit is due: That was Vinny's link!
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Posted: 12 October 2017 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

This one seemed a bit forced to me. The humor and the plot. 

Still, I'm nowhere near done with this show.

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Agreed on all points. I think the forced nature of it may have something to do with the fact that this is the first episode not written by MacFarlane. Right from the opening teaser, the humor was more blatant than it had been, up 'till this episode.



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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 13 October 2017 at 3:52am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

My least favorite episode so far, but still not that bad. But after having what I felt was the funniest joke of the season last week, this week we get some of the least funny ones. I hope there's not always a noticeable dip in quality in the episodes by other writers.
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Speaking of other writers, one of the things that tells me I officially hooked on THE ORVILLE is that I have started writing for the show in my head. I can always tell when I'm sliding into the groove when, unbidden, story ideas start to form.

I was "writing" TOS the next day!

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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 13 October 2017 at 7:15am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I'd love to see a John Byrne scripted episode of The Orville! 
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Posted: 13 October 2017 at 8:25am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Yes.  And I would also enjoy an Orville comic by JB...one-shot or mini-series.  

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I'd love to see a script where the Orville rescues an amnesiac William Shatner from a strange energy ribbon in space. ;)
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Posted: 13 October 2017 at 9:56am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Yeah, I'll admit this wasn't the strongest of episodes, but still very watchable.
The "We try harder" prayer got a good laugh out of me.
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Posted: 13 October 2017 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I would enjoy seeing Brian Blessed make a guest appearance, even if it was just a voice role.
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Just watched "Krill" for a second time. Worked better knowing what was coming.
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While I thoroughly enjoy the tone of the show, the jokes tend to feel contrived and superfluous more often than not. However, Krill had the single funniest moment of the season for me, when Alara failed to open a comm channel before Captain Mercer started talking.

I think they would be well served to focus on more that style of humor - reversal of expectations and inversion of sci-fi tropes - and back off a little from the 20th century cultural references.
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Alara failed? That's a distinctly sexist way to phrase it.

Anyway, I wonder if seeds were planted in this episode that will pay off big time later. I'm thinking specifically of Gordon telling the Krill child the location of Earth.

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And that's why you're a writer and I'm
not. As soon as I read your comment about
seeds being planted and your specific
"seed" it instantly seemed obvious to me,
an "of course!" moment. (One that never
would have occurred to me until you
pointed it out.)
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So far, each episode needs to be shown in its specific place in order; in this one Gordon makes reference to his brand-new leg.

Maybe it's just the mission used as the plot for this episode, but I found myself thinking the show will have to solve the problem of the Krill. Twenty years ago this would just have been presenting the description of a recurring villain.
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Part of the clunkiness of this episode was lousy direction.  The cutaway to Alara putting out the console fire was super clunky and oddly framed.  I knew it was going to be really bad though when we had a scene with three characters walking down a corridor, talking, and it twice cut a way to the characters' backs.  Did I miss something?  Was there supposed to be a gag in there?
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Posted: 16 October 2017 at 10:44am | IP Logged | 17 post reply

I didn't think the scene with Alara not opening a comm channel yet was all that funny....

Nice to see Kelly Hu doing something other than a Viagra commercial.
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Sometimes I get the feeling there are people for whom humor is an on/off switch, not a graduated scale.
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Posted: 16 October 2017 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

For every gag or joke that doesn't work for me there are usually several that do (in this last episode some of the jokes didn't work for me, but the bit when he yells "that's a new leg" made me laugh out loud) and there's so much else about the show that I love that it's hardly worth nitpicking about.

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Posted: 18 October 2017 at 10:33pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

You guys might find this comparison review of Star Trek Discovery and the Orville by a Star Trek writer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oKsdc1VATg
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Posted: 19 October 2017 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 21 post reply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oKsdc1VATg

"Mr. Sci-Fi"?

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I guess "Mr. Sci-Fi" is the name of Marc Zicree's Youtube channel. He wrote for Star Trek: Next Generation (the episode "First Contact" in the fourth season), Deep Space Nine ("Far Beyond the Stars" in the sixth season), the 1985 Twilight Zone, as well as ton of other TV shows from Babylon 5 to the Smurfs. I thought his take was pretty spot on. He tries to be diplomatic about it but all of his complaints about Star Trek: Discovery were spot on, especially the bit about how Michael wouldn't have lasted any time at all in the military (much less 7 years) with her propensity to constantly disobey her superiors orders and how the show seemed like war written by people who'd never actually experienced war (he contrasts it with an episode of the original Twilight Zone written by Rod Serling based on his own experiences in World War 2). 
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Zicree is also the author of 'The Twilight Zone Companopn', the first major reference book/episode guide devoted to that series.
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Posted: 21 October 2017 at 2:59am | IP Logged | 24 post reply

TV by the Numbers gives THE ORVILLE a better than average chance at being picked up because it's owned by FOX.  Its numbers aren't great, but the landscape of network television now sides with a series that may be low performing but is owned by the network it airs on earning a renewal because that network will see profits down the line if the episode count hits a certain number (66 or 88 - three or four seasons depending).  

If THE ORVILLE gets a second season, odds are good that it sees a third as well.  Fingers crossed! 
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Shane Matlock
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Posted: 22 October 2017 at 10:41am | IP Logged | 25 post reply

Was there no new Orville episode this week? I watch it on Hulu as I don't have cable, but noticed there wasn't a new episode added.
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