Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login
The John Byrne Forum
Byrne Robotics > The John Byrne Forum Page of 5 Next >>
Topic: Apparently, We’ve Become Super Sensitive To Everything (Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message
Stephen Churay
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 25 March 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 8369
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 11:02am | IP Logged | 1  

I know some of the members here are into
console gaming, I don't know how many are
actually part of the online community.
But, there seems to be an uproar over a
joke tweeed by Colin Moriarty about the "A
Day Without Women" movement that took
place on March 8th.

link

Now, I agree that the joke isn't in good
taste. It can even be debated as to
whether or not, it's funny. But, hasn't
there been popular sitcoms that based
their entire premise on jokes like this?
(Ex. Married With Children, The
Honeymooners )

Does a tweet like this really need people
to grab the torches and pitchforks to go
after this guy?
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
John Popa
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 20 March 2008
Posts: 4360
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 11:08am | IP Logged | 2  

But, hasn't
there been popular sitcoms that based
their entire premise on jokes like this?
(Ex. Married With Children, The
Honeymooners )

-----

I think a lot of us would agree those shows would have difficulty being sold in today's environment.


Back to Top profile | search
 
Michael Casselman
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 January 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 1210
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 11:18am | IP Logged | 3  

Outrage culture is at it's loudest next to a keyboard.
Back to Top profile | search
 
Peter Martin
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 15729
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 4  

Married With Children got its laughs from us laughing at Al Bundy's attitude towards Peggy not laughing with him and had the counterbalance of effectively all four members of the family being equally obnoxious to each other.

Had, back in the day, the producers of the show decided to air a Married With Children special on the occasion of International Women's Day, it might be more of an equivalent of the asshattery involved. Maybe his tweet was a harmless joke that he didn't think twice about. Or maybe he did think twice about it, realised that it might be an attempt to undermine a valid complaint about unequal pay and just didn't give a shit.

Anyway, given they say his resignation is NOT because of the tweet, where are the pitchforks? 


Edited by Peter Martin on 16 March 2017 at 11:37am
Back to Top profile | search
 
Steve De Young
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 April 2008
Location: United States
Posts: 3487
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 5  

it might be an attempt to undermine a valid complaint about unequal pay
------------------------------------------------------------ ----
Really?  Someone of reasonable intelligence and goodwill could read that quip and honestly think it was an attempt by its author to undermine women's campaigning for equal pay?  Really?
Back to Top profile | search
 
Michael Roberts
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 20 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 14812
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | 6  

MARRIED WITH CHILDREN worked because, like SOUTH PARK, it
was an equal opportunity offender, making fun of everything, and
because the Bundys, especially Al, were supposed to be horrible
people, so you could laugh at their offensiveness and not necessarily
along with them.

Context matters in comedy. Observational comedy about black
stereotypes will come across differently coming out of Chris Rock than
it would a conservative white comedian.
Back to Top profile | search
 
Peter Martin
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 15729
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 12:32pm | IP Logged | 7  

Really?  Someone of reasonable intelligence and goodwill could read that quip and honestly think it was an attempt by its author to undermine women's campaigning for equal pay?  Really?
-----------------------------------
So lets' see. He included the hastag for A Day Without A Woman. A Day Without A Woman was a march primarily designed to highlight the contribution women make to the economy while receiving lower wages. Was the quip intended to support this event? Or was it intended in a snide, negative way?

I don't think it's too hard to conclude that yes, it was precisely meant as a little jab in the eye of that specific event -- the reference is at the core of his 'joke'.

*Edited to get the name of the event correct!


Edited by Peter Martin on 16 March 2017 at 12:42pm
Back to Top profile | search
 
Richard Stevens
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 04 May 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 1925
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | 8  

If that's an effective joke - or even a functional joke - I'm the Shi'ar Imperator.
Back to Top profile | search | www
 
Michael Casselman
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 January 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 1210
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 9  

Was the quip intended to support this event? Or was it intended in a snide, negative way?

________________________________

Why limit it to two interpretations?

Back to Top profile | search
 
Michael Roberts
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 20 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 14812
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | 10  

As a slight tangent:

Person A makes a joke.
Person B says, "Hey, that's a bit tasteless and sexist."
Person C goes off on Person B ranting about SJWs, PC culture,
feminists, and cucks.

Which one is displaying outrage culture and being super sensitive?

Anyway, I initially missed the fact that this was a group that a does a
podcast on console gaming. Considering the issues that gaming culture
has been dealing with, like GamerGate and the general toxicity of
gamer culture, don't you feel that a Tweeted joke from a Gamer
podcaster may come across differently than it would from Al Bundy?
Back to Top profile | search
 
Peter Martin
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 15729
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 11  

When you comment on something, it's either going to have a positive or a negative slant. At a push, you might be able to squish the logic to accommodate that it's possible to have a comment that is utterly and completely neutral.

Do you subscribe to the notion that this comment was utterly and completely neutral?

I don't think it's unfair to reduce it to a basic question of whether the 'joke' was intended to be a positive or negative comment, in order to clarify my point. The quip was intended to get a laugh at the expense of the thing it was referencing. 


Edited by Peter Martin on 16 March 2017 at 1:01pm
Back to Top profile | search
 
Joe Boster
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 3160
Posted: 16 March 2017 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | 12  

Or.

Person A makes a joke
Person B say that's not funny but it's not offencive
Person C say that's OK I offended FOR you. 

Or

Person A ask what's one thing you would never do
Person B Sleep with a black woman. 
Person C That's Racist! 
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 

Page of 5 Next >>
  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login