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David Miller
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When Marvel announced the title, I figured the chances of Ragnarok being done properly as a tragedy, especially at this point in their overall film series, were somewhere south of zero in six. Then they hired Taika Waititi, an interesting choice but not exactly a guy with a list of dramas on his resume. 
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The title comes from the fact that its adapting Walt Simonson's 'Ragnarok and Roll' story, with a heaping helping of Planet Hulk thrown in, since they wanted to do the latter as its own movie, but didn't want to share the money with Universal.
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They still have to share the money with Universal.  Any time Marvel uses the Hulk, Universal gets a share.
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I had heard that some detail of that deal was what was stopping them from making a standalone Hulk movie.  Maybe I heard wrong.
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"First and foremost a comedy."
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Wow, who knew that Richard Lester got it right all those years ago when he turned Superman into slapstick comedy? A man ahead of his time, apparently. 
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I had heard that some detail of that deal was what was stopping them from making a standalone Hulk movie.  Maybe I heard wrong. 

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Marvel has full character and production rights to the Hulk. But Universal still retains right of first refusal for the distribution of any Hulk movies. So itís not that a Hulk movie canít be made, but Universal would be in control of distribution. 
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The Hulk rights conversation reminds of how an editor described the then-upcoming HEROES REBORN to me in terms of licensing. The conversation was well above my fanboy pay grade. 
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I don't think this is Richard Lester-type material. It's not trying to turn the characters into jokes. Just making them TELL jokes.

I must've been in a cloud in the 1990s because I honestly thought HEROES REBORN was never meant to be permanent. Just a stunt that would last for a year or two. Like the Death of Superman.
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First and foremost a comedy."

That's what you all want from a Thor movie with RAGNAROK in the title, right?..>>>


I don't think it should be, but I'm not surprised.  For me, most of  the Marvel movies has overdone the humor.  To varying degrees.  some have definitely grated more than others.  It's sure not what I'm looking for from a Thor movie, though.


The one movie I was fine with it was DEADPOOL.  That's the character.. And I know that a FOX movie.  Just using it as an example of a character it fits.  




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I thought the first two THOR films were surprisingly dull, so I'm all for the humor in this one... just as long as a "THOR 4" tones it down a little, rather than ratchet it up to the nth degree.



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The contempt for the characters in that EW review is palpable, so I'll take that "first and foremost a comedy" with a huge grain of salt. I don't doubt that it's chockfull of humor, but I'm still expecting an action-adventure superhero film that's funny, rather than a comedy with superheroes.
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From the trailer i assume it will have Guardians of the
Galaxy levels of humour,plan on seeing it on
Wednseday,so i will soon find out!
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The comparison I keep seeing is FLASH GORDON. Which I wouldn't necessarily mind and would be an improvement over DARK WORLD, but I can also see going horribly wrong. Plus it wouldn't have the Queen soundtrack.
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Come on UK, this thing opened there today. I'm stuck in Canada where it hasn't opened yet. Has no one been to see this yet None spoiler review needed
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Just saw a CBR headline.  I didn't read the article, just the headline.  It said something like, brings a lot of laughs not enough heart.  That's what I said here about HOMECOMING.  And if I thought it was overdone in a Spider-Man  movie chances are pretty damn good I won't like it in a Thor movie.   That's not what I'm looking for in most superhero movies.  To each his own.

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The comparison I keep seeing is FLASH GORDON.

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The previews don't seem that campy at all. 
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Come on UK, this thing opened there today. I'm stuck in Canada where it hasn't opened yet. Has no one been to see this yet None spoiler review needed

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I saw this last night and was very impressed with direction, the action scenes are wonderfully shot, filled with exceptional effects. This is one of the rare times that the visuals evoked the comics for me.

But...the constant broad humour ultimately took away from what could have been an epic adventure.

I definitely get the comparison to Flash Gordon, though not the camp aspect but more from the off kilter design of the worlds. And the original score is very evocative of the 80s.


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Just listened to bits of the soundtrack. Seems Mark Mothersburgh has gone right back to his Devo days.

This seems to fit squarely into the Guardians model. I wonder if this is how Marvel will structure all movies in the cosmic part of the MCU - more humour, Ď80ís music (or Ď70ís in the first Gurdians but hopefully the point stands)
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I did find the humour in Gaurdians woven into the script while in Thor it feels like it's been smashed in with a sledgehammer.

For me it's a great shame because at times this felt like it really captured the cosmic Thor stories. Still, this is as close as I've come to outright enjoying a Marvel film.
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I enjoyed it,the humour to action ratio was about 40/60.Bright colourful set design very much inspired by Kirby and Simonson.Walt gets a separate credit at the end.The second time you hear Immigrant Song,the visuals were very comic book epic.I found Jeff Goldblum a bit irritating,but he seems that way in real life! The soundtrack has a very 80`s Disco vibe in places.The Hulk speaking was great!
I left the cinema with a smile on my face,which is something I can`t say about DC films!
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UNSPOILERS: I think the part where Thor dies, and Valkyrie, Nighthawk, Deathlok, Quicksilver, and Namor get together to avenge him is pretty awesome.

Oh wait... do I have my flicks mixed up again?
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Eric,you`re thinking of The Defenders,this was The
Revengers.
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So, just got back from seeing it and it was fun reminiscent of the GOTG films. The humour is just about on the right side of enough, although I felt it sailed close to the line (as did the film with some very adult references albeit their went over the heads of my nine- and eleven-year olds - I think!). Three brilliant cameos - and, Doctor Strange, I'm not looking at you - along with the obligatory end credit sequences. 

More when everyone else has got to see it ...
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Bill C. - Noooooo.... but you're close. :) You have to remember that I have a rather quirky sense of humor (well, SOME call it humor... :D )
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