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John Byrne
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Apparently I received a credit on the first episode of LEGION. Who'da thunk, all those years ago, when Chris Claremont told me he'd come up with a character called "Psycho," who had multiple personalities, and a different power for each, and I said "No! Call him 'Legion'!"
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I watched the episode. I thought it was interesting enough to give it another try next week. I haven't read much about the character. Maybe in one of your X-Men issues JB. So not much history to form an opinion about the character.

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I never knew you came up with the name. The character was introduced by Chris and Bill S when they were on NEW MUTANTS.
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"Legion" was a name that had been percolating in my head for a while, without quite finding a place to land. I knew there would be some kind of multiple powers angle to it, and as soon as Chris described his guy, I knew that was just the place.

I didn't know he intended the character to be Xavier's bastard kid, tho. That was something I'd been fighting against my whole time on the book. Proteus was originally intended to be Xavier's out-of-wedlock whelp. At that time, as now, I was firmly against the idea of people, especially superheroes, getting knocked up every time they had sex.

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 Proteus was originally intended to be Xavier's out-of-wedlock whelp.
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Proteus is Moira Mactaggert's son am I correct? If so than my early statement about reading Legion once is incorrect. It was Proteus that I was thinking about.

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LEGION was pretty trippy for me... and not in a good way. Not sure I'm on board for this series but I'll try a few more episodes before I judge it completely.

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I wasn't really interested, but I had an hour and a half to spare and--it was really good!  (Same guy did the FARGO show, which was also really good.)

I was curious and was going to ask JB--When they "Thank" you in the credits, do they actually thank you in reality too--like do they at least send you a card or something?
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I watched about 15 minutes of it and I was done...  Definitely not for me!
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I made it 10 minutes and gave it up. My wife was done almost as soon as it started.
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I made it thru the whole episode. 
I don't have any history with the source material so no judgments from me on that aspect.
I found the story line a bit disjointed at first then I got into the flow of what they were trying to do. The battle near the end was a little clunky.

I may watch the next episode if I happen to be home and I surf into it.

p.s. The appearance of Aubrey Plaza did  move my finger off the clicker.
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Calling a character Syd Barrett(Pink Floyd`s first
singer) was a hint at the trippy disjointed direction
of the episode.I will stick around a bit to see how it
develops as it`s by the guy behind the Fargo tv series
which i liked.
One thing that i did like was the use of sound to
convey the multitude of voices in his head.I have long
thought that telepathic powers would be more of a
curse than a benefit.Just imagine all those thoughts
of strangers in your head,some playing earworm
tunes,some just dull shopping lists,some revealing
what others really think of you and some just too
horrific to bear.
As for the name `Legion` i think that would have
suited Jamie Madrox,it`s sounds better than `The
Multiple Man`
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P.S. whenever i see the name Aubrey Plaza it registers
in my head as a place not a person!
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There are some very strange pictures of Ms Plaza online. I sure hope they're fake!!
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I find naming a character "Syd Barrett" on a superhero show to be in terrible taste. Barrett's life was a tragedy, and throwing him a high five in the context of comic book "schizophrenia" is like naming a bickering sitcom couple Ike and Tina Turner.
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"There are some very strange pictures of Ms Plaza online. I sure hope they're fake!!"

One of those strange pictures, I think you might be referencing, of is a gif taken from an indy movie she starred in. I'm surprised it's up on Google.
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I understand FX is limiting the first season to eight episodes. At first glance, I think that's a good number of episodes to start with; with all the other MARVEL and DC series on TV right now (including NETFLIX), it's starting to feel overwhelming to even attempt to keep up with.
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I saw the "Thank You" credit and wondered where you fit in to the character's history. Mystery solved.

So, this would seem to be another "In Name Only" version of a character, since (as I recall, and good dog, it's been decades!), David's mother was an Israeli diplomat or
Mossad agent or some such and (again, memories are vague) his powers (telepathy, telekinesis and pyrokinesis?) were each controlled by a different personality or the
personalities were the absorbed psyches of people whose deaths David was responsible for?
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Legion reminds me of that Youtube skit "What if Wes Anderson Directed the X-Men". The SFX budget is about the same. 
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The pilot was very film geeky, coming across as the chimerical lovechild
of Stanley Kubrick, Michel Gondry, and Wes Anderson films.


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So, this would seem to be another "In Name Only" version of
a character, since (as I recall, and good dog, it's been decades!),
David's mother was an Israeli diplomat or
Mossad agent or some such and (again, memories are vague) his
powers (telepathy, telekinesis and pyrokinesis?) were each controlled
by a different personality or the
personalities were the absorbed psyches of people whose deaths
David was responsible for?


I don't think anything we've seen precludes any of that. The show
leaves room for the idea that many of the characters we see David
talking to are not real or may have been once real but are currently
dead. Also his pyrokinesis seemed to be used by him outside of his
awareness, controlled by the "memory" of someone who may be a
delusion or hallucination.
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Posted: 15 February 2017 at 1:38am | IP Logged | 20  

You have to watch this series from the persecutive that it's being told by an unreliable narrator.  In that sense, it's much like MR. ROBOT.  What the lead character thinks, feels and believes may not be real at all.  If you're comfortable with that narrative style, then this is a series for you.  If not, then you may want to pass.

For me, I thought the pilot was brilliant.  In for a penny, so to speak.  
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Posted: 17 February 2017 at 12:31am | IP Logged | 21  

Legion was actually really good. I loved the Pink  Floyd Dark Side of the Moon vibe I got from a lot of the soundtrack. I think it probably helps that I never much cared for the character in comics so the wild liberties they are taking with the TV show are only an improvement to me. Plus it's by the guy who did the Fargo TV show which is brilliant.

I didn't know it was JB who came up with the name Legion since he was introduced in New Mutants and the creator credits given are for Claremont and  Sienkiewicz. Very cool.

Also Aubrey Plaza being in the show was great. I absolutely adore her.


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When I finally got around to watching the second episode. I fell asleep during it. That's definitely not a good sign. I'm giving it one more episode. If my interest doesn't improve i'm giving up on the show.
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After an intense and mind-bending first episode the second episode seemed more of a straightforward hero explanation/exploration of their powers which was a little bit of a letdown.

Visually and conceptually this show is stunning (especially the ways it slides between the over saturated 70's colours and the 'present').  Even if the content wasn't up to snuff it's still some interesting visual candy.

So far I'm liking it.  Also glad they don't feel the need (yet) to pepper it with any overt comic or Marvel film franchise references, or lame 'geeks only' easter eggs that everyone will rush to look up on wikipedia and squee about on social media.   I'd rather get INTO a story than be pulled out of it every ten minutes because the creator feels the audience needs to be reminded "Hey, remember the X-men?". 


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*SPOILERS*


I think it's the Shadow King who's been haunting David. I don't like some aspects of the show, but they're doing a great job turning a vague character into a menacing villain. 
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Joe, the first thought that popped into my head was "Mojo", but I think you're right about it being the Shadow King given his preference for telepaths.

Also, there's something weirdly absurd about a comic-to-TV adaptation using the phrase "finger-bang".   The 'Deadpool Effect' strikes again, I guess.


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