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Michael Roberts
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RE: the location of Paradise Island.
I was left with the impression that the island was in another dimension.
Nowhere in our physical world.

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I didn't get that at all. I thought it was clearly on Earth, just cloaked and
surrounded by bad weather to ward people off.
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It's funny.  While I share everyone's enthusiasm who loves this movie, that it's being hailed as the best thing since Nolan's Batman makes me laugh.  I hated that movie and franchise and think it's an insult to compare this enjoyable movie to that...thing.

I know, different strokes.  Just kind of funny.
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Andy: Roger Ebert liked to tell a story about a woman who called him at his office to ask his opinion of a certain film.

"I think it's the best movie of the year," Ebert said.

"Oh," the woman replied. "That doesn't sound like something I'd like."

I wish I could find the actual quote.
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The regard for the Nolan BATMAN trilogy is inexplicable to me -- although I didn't even bother watching the third.  I have to reach back really far for a comparison; WONDER WOMAN is the best DC film since 1978.  I also think it's the only good DC movie since 1978.


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I agree with Thom. Outside of Superman the Movie, this was my favorite DC film of all. It was a pure joy - gorgeous, strong Wonder Woman, action, drama, bits of humor. Amazing stuff.

I would say the only downside was the God of War looked like a Transformer trying to be Magneto, but what the hell? It was good there was someone who was there to give Diana a challenge. Great stuff - now sad she has to be part of what looks to be a clunker of a JLA movie.

As they said in the film, "man doesn't deserve you." Nor does the JLA movie.

Bring on Wonder Woman's sequel.
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While it was slightly ambiguous, I think it was heavily implied that Diana is literally the daughter of Zeus.  The entire finale hinged on her being a (demi)-god and Ares's sister; would any of that be true if Zeus had only brought her to life via the clay statue?  Wonder Woman's origin has always been a goddess bringing a statue to life, and that's never translated into Diana herself being a goddess.  (Of course JB made her a goddess, but that was separate from her origin.)
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While it was slightly ambiguous, I think it was heavily implied that Diana
is literally the daughter of Zeus. The entire finale hinged on her being a
(demi)-god and Ares's sister; would any of that be true if Zeus had only
brought her to life via the clay statue?

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Why not? The Zeus of myth did some weird shit when it came to the
ladies. Diana is unquestionably Zeus' daughter, but whether she began
life as a clay statue or a fertilized egg is not answered definitively and
ultimately unimportant to the resolution of the movie.
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The Zeus of myth

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was a randy dude.  You think he'd chose to zap to life a statue when the alternative was to bed Connie Nielsen?
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My wife and I saw it this morning....  WOW.  Both of us were completely blown away by it and definitely want to see it again in the theater.  Just to let you know how much we really loved it:  We've been married 21 years and we've never seen a movie together twice in a theater.

IMO, this was the best super-hero movie since SUPERMAN (1978).  Period.
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Loved it!
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My daughter and I loved this movie! I'd rank it as
tied with the Original Donner Superman film as DC's
best movie.

My only nitpick was that from the time Steve arrives
in London with Diana, to the time Diana enters No
Man's Land, is too long.
I noticed my daughter fidgetting a bit as 12-year-olds
don't care about all of the nitty-gritty details and
machinations going on in London during Word War One.
Trim about 6 minutes out of that and the film would be
perfect.

The scene when Diana decides to take (liberate?) No
Man's Land is as powerful and iconic as the best
scenes from Any superhero film.
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I liked WONDER WOMAN, and had very few complaints with the movie up until
Diana and Ares started fighting. I would certainly enjoy seeing it again.

As far as where WONDER WOMAN ranks against other superhero movies… I
would place it second to the first Christopher Reeve Superman movie in terms
of DC films. It would sit behind a few Marvel movies for me as well.
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Saw this over the weekend. Yeah, the comparisons to Reeve are well deserved, I was just floored and taken aback by this movie. Very visceral, entertaining and incredibly well made.
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Here's a brand new interview with George Perez, about his WW reboot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JdxfCgPXN0

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I noticed my daughter fidgetting a bit as 12-year-olds
don't care about all of the nitty-gritty details and
machinations going on in London during Word War One.
Trim about 6 minutes out of that and the film would be
perfect.

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That's helpful information, Marc. I have two boys - eight and ten. Is the content suitable for those age and is there enough to sustain their interest? Anyone, please pitch in with your thoughts.
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Matthew Wilkie, I am not a father, but I believe the action is suitable for your sons. It's not gory or ultra-violent. Fairly typical action for a modern film.

There are some slower periods that will still hold an adult's interest, but I can see a child getting restless. Then again, I wouldn't say it's much more than most action films that still want to tell a story in between action scenes.

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Matt - Thanks for that; much appreciated.
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Children, restless?  That's a bathroom break!



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Killing off Steve Trevor is pretty much a Wonder Woman comic tradition from way back.  He's been absent for huge chunks of Wonder Woman's print career.  So I actually hope he's left to heroism and flashbacks, and they don't try to come up with some contrived way to bring him back...or his identical grandson.
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Did Pine sign any sort of multi-film deal specific to the DCEU movies?
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Did Pine sign any sort of multi-film deal specific to the DCEU movies?

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Yes.
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My 8-year-old kept saying, "when is she going to turn into Wonder Woman?"
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My 8-year-old kept saying, "when is she going to turn into Wonder Woman?"

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Yes, I can imagine the scenes leading up to Wonder Woman's "entry" might make some smaller kids squirm.  I heard the "when he is going to turn into ...?" whine from my nephews during a few earlier superhero films.

Speaking for myself, I tend to be acutely aware of scenes that drag on too long or movies that just feel "padded" -- my number one complaint, even about movies I like -- but WONDER WOMAN never tried my patience.  It came close a few times, but it seemed to have a knack for moving on just as I was starting to get a bit antsy.


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Just got back from seeing Wonder Woman. Really enjoyed it. Gal Gadot and
Chris Pine had some good chemistry. Great balance of Themyscira, London
and WWI. Liked that they included the origin Marston and HG Peter gave her,
not as fond of the current origin (makes her too much like Superman). Liked
the ending not the expected one for the characters, killing off steve.
One BIG complaint was I didn't see H.G. Peter's list of names who influenced
the film. Listed only one of her creators, why do they over look artists? Looking
forward to the sequel.
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I have to admit I was a bit perplexed by the decision to make Ares Zeus' son, rather than his brother. Obviously, Ares is every bit as fictional as Wonder Woman, but his particular "origin story" has been established for so long, that is almost seems more like history than mythology.
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