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Steve De Young
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Posted: 19 September 2017 at 1:53pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Honest Trailer is out, and its pretty spot on.

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Don't agree with Themiscyra being there to cover for Gal Gadot's accent. Diana speaking with an accent consistent with the south Med makes sense. Having everyone else from Themiscyra speaking with anything other than the same accent would make no sense at all. Everything else is wryly accurate though. 
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The bit about Xena is comparison to Wonder Woman is a bit the other way 'round in reality.
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Hi Everybuddy,

Did anyone splurge and buy the WONDER WOMAN Blu-Ray or DVD?

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I'll do you one better.  I preordered the digital version that came out weeks before the physical one.  That's how much I loved this film.  
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I pre-ordered the Blu/digital from Amazon as I left my seat in the theater when
I finished seeing it.
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Just watched the film (with my daughter) again, on Blu-
ray this time. Great movie, one of the few Origin-tale
movies that I don't find boring.
That No Man's Land scene... so inspirational! One of the
best.
The ending with Ares is a tiny bit preachy, but the film
overall is great.
Etta's epilogue should have been the movie's mid or
post-credits scene!
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Posted: 24 September 2017 at 5:48am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I preordered the bluray before it was even filmed!
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Gave this another look. It's not a truly great film, but it's definitely a good one. Draggy in places, obvious in places, and I still can't decide if Godot can act or not. Also not thrilled by Wonder Woman's traditional origin (being sculpted from clay) being presented as a mere cover story, here. Still, the positives mostly outweigh the negatives.

Overall, the film did the job it needed to do, although the glowing praise is a bit much, I think. That said, I'm pleased by the earnest and positive message it sends (unlike other, more agenda-driven fare of recent vintage *koff*STAR WARS*koff*).

Definitely the best thing to come out of recent cinematic DC, although that's a very low bar to clear!
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 Greg Kirkman wrote:
Definitely the best thing to come out of recent cinematic DC, although that's a very low bar to clear!

Can't help but feel that's a thinly veiled slam on the film.  Speaking only for me, of course, I feel that it's every bit as definitive for Wonder Woman as SUPERMAN: THE MOTION PICTURE and BATMAN BEGINS was for those characters.  That's a decidedly much higher bar to clear and WONDER WOMAN does it with flying colors.
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Can't help but feel that's a thinly veiled slam on the film. Speaking only for me, of course, I feel that it's every bit as definitive for Wonder Woman as SUPERMAN: THE MOTION PICTURE and BATMAN BEGINS was for those characters. That's a decidedly much higher bar to clear and WONDER WOMAN does it with flying colors.
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No, that wasn't intended as a slam, and I'm sorry if it came off as one. I meant that the film could have been only half as good as it actually is, and still would have easily cleared the bar set by the other recent DC films.

That all said, I'd give the film a solid three out of four stars. It has flaws which keep it from being a truly great film, I think, but it still feels very much in the SUPERMAN- THE MOVIE vein of treating the character with reverence and dignity. I'm glad that Wonder Woman's first cinematic outing didn't end up being a trainwreck. That would have been very unfortunate.
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You know , WONDER WOMAN is going to be on of those films, in the coming years, that I will surf into on tv and if it's on a scene I like will happily watch . Then I'll surf on out till we meet again.

There are a gang of films like that for me. I just need to be reminded of those great scenes that I enjoyed so much from the first viewing. Without getting any bad taste in my mouth from seeing a scene or act that didn't do it for me.
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That said, I'm pleased by the earnest and positive message it sends (unlike other, more agenda-driven fare of recent vintage *koff*STAR WARS*koff*).

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Setting aside the inherent feminism of Wonder Woman, you still have Doctor Poison, the female chemical weapons expert of Axis Germany, the calling out of racism and Islamophobia by Sameer, and the calling out of the treatment of Native Americans by white settlers by Chief Napi (none of which I personally mind, by the way), but the recent STAR WARS movies are more agenda driven because... ?

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...because Wonder Woman comes across as an actual character with strengths, weaknesses, and motivations, instead of as a mere propaganda tool who does everything men can do, but better.

She learns and grows over the course of the film, unlike Rey, who is literally handed everything by strangers because she's just that awesome, is more competent than everyone around her, and goes full-on Jedi with zero training.


Messages wrapped up in strong characterization and organic storytelling are one thing. Messages that eschew strong characterization and logical storytelling are something else.

But, I really have no desire to get into this argument, again.
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But, I really have no desire to get into this argument, again.

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I know. That's why I get confused when you keep coughing it out there.

 I don't agree with your assessment of Rey, but let's set aside that point. If WONDER WOMAN had been in the hands of a less skilled writer and a less skill director, but still hit the same points, would it suddenly become "agenda-driven"? Or can we acknowledge that films with female leads have shitty directors the same way that films with male leads have shitty directors, and the "OMG SJWs" accusations are unnecessary?


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With WW coming out on BR/DVD last week, the season premiere of BIG BANG THEORY that came on Monday had tons of WW merchandise as set pieces. 
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My family and I will be owning the Bluray shortly.

The way I look at it is this:  Is it imperfect?  Sure.  Off the top of my head (I only saw it once), I recall it was probably a little overlong, it's sort of a mish-mash of various takes on the character, and the climax is a fairly stereotypical overload of CGI.

Yet there was also so much more care and respect for Wonder Woman (even for just the general approach alone), that I can't help but think how downright AWFUL this film could have been.  If you pause and imagine what a big-screen WW film would've probably looked & sounded like in 1967, 1977, 1987, 1997 or 2007, then I am more than happy with what we finally got in 2017.





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For what its worth, the finale played much better on my 60-inch at home than it did in the theater.  I found myself thinking, "This cgi isn't that bad or hard to follow..." but then remembered thinking it was just as murky and dissatisfying in the theater as everybody else. 
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The accolades continue... the WONDER WOMAN movie was honored today as an Official Selection in the Movies of the Year category of the American Film Institute (AFI) Awards for 2017.

Only 11 movies were selected by the institute and WONDER WOMAN was one of them!

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For what its worth, the finale played much better on my 60-inch at
home than it did in the theater. I found myself thinking, "This cgi isn't
that bad or hard to follow..." but then remembered thinking it was just as
murky and dissatisfying in the theater as everybody else.
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Out of curiosity, did you see it in 3D at the theater?
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