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Neil Lindholm
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Been watching for 3 minutes and I can't figure out what she is saying. 
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Innit? Yeh?
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Innit?=Isn`t it? Yeh?=Yes? Simple!
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40 minutes setup, 5 minutes rush to the conclusion.
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I went to bed without watching it. Will try again tonight when I can concentrate fully on her speaking. I don't have problems with UK slang but her voice is high-pitched and she talks fast. I didn't like that on the preview when I first saw her and I don't like it now. From the short time I watched, she sneaks into University lectures? Shouldn't her accent be more posh then?
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From the short time I watched, she sneaks into University lectures?
Shouldn't her accent be more posh then?

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She sneaks into physics lectures with a Professor who speaks with a
"Scottish" accent. Not sure where she'd pick up the posh accent.

I had trouble understanding the 12th Doctor's first few episodes, but
had no problem with Bill's accent.
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Shouldn't her accent be more posh then?
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I don't see why it would need to be more posh. I had several friends in college. I would often sneak into their classes and lectures. It isn't a big deal.
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I have zero experience with British Universities but from the students I have met when I was in University in Canada (and all the Brits I have met overseas), their accents are very easy to understand. They are also usually highly educated. Wouldn't all the students at her University talk with posher accents? And wouldn't she want to get rid of the lower-class accent in order to better fit in with the educated people around her?

I know I am completely talking out of my ass here as I have no idea but I know that if I lived in a class-oriented society like the UK, where accent means a lot, then I would want to rise above my perceived station. Her accent reminded me of Vicky Pollard. 
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And wouldn't she want to get rid of the lower-class accent in order to
better fit in with the educated people around her?

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She works in the cafeteria and sits in on the Doctor's lecture. I don't see
a need to hide her accent.
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In the U.K. we have many regional accents and you will
find all of them at Universities,the cliche of everyone
speaking `Posh` is just that,a cliche! We don`t all
speak like we live in Downton Abbey!
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My roommate at University was the son of Baron Hope of Craighead. Although he was born in Scotland, his accent was as posh as they come. He told me he got a lot of grief over that with his school peers. 

Like I said, I was just talking out of my ass with my comment but her voice irritates me. 

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The trailer that came out months ago bugged me, due to Bill talking too much. Most of that dialogue wasn't included in the version of the scene that appeared in this episode. Overall, the story/resolution wasn't the greatest, but Bill has more depth than the trailer made it appear that she would have. I was a little worried she might be a throwback to Rose...especially since a good part of her first scene with the Doctor referenced 'chips'!

It wasn't a spectacularly thrilling episode...but Moffat's episodes are never thrilling when they try to be, so maybe it's a good sign that he can write a good 'low key' episode on purpose.
Hmm..my takeaway from the episode: 'Written by Moffat, and yet, not total crap...in fact, watchble.'
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I liked it, but the ending felt a bit rushed....in more ways than one.

I smiled at seeing the old sonic screwdrivers and the pictures in the Doctors office. The one good thing about Moffat's run has been referencing the past. 
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I really disliked her from the trailer but the viewpoint here so far is positive. I will watch it tonight when I get home (and pay more attention when she talks) and hopefully my first impression will be better. 
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The episode struck me as being primarily created to introduce Bill, the alien threat bit was entirely secondary, which was okay.  I like the new companion quite a bit.

My only quibble about the episode was the gratuitous Dalek appearance.  Remembering the panic when the show was first coming back that the Daleks wouldn't be on the show at all, I wonder if the arrangement they struck with Terry Nation's estate was that the Daleks have to used once in every single season (as they have, even when they were shoehorned into non-Dalek stories like Waters of Mars or A Good Man Goes To War).  If this gets them out of the way for the season, fine.
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To be honest i disliked her from the preview last
year,but after seeing the episode i warmed to her.Her
voice isn`t any more irritating to me than Billie Piper
or Catherine Tate.
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Watched the episode. I liked her more than I was planning on, after seeing the preview. Still was a few times where I had no idea what she was saying though. 

The room with the vault reminded me of the very first episode, "The Unearthly Child". That was the impression I got when Bill was making her way through the doors and down the stairs. I might be influenced by the photo of Susan on the Doctor's desk though. 
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I gave up on the last series a episode or two from the end and skipped the Xmas special, but thought I would give this series a go. I agree there was far too much set-up and it was disappointing to see the Daleks used yet again in such a throwaway manner but I did enjoy it. The relationship between Bill and the Doctor reminded me a little of Rose and Tennant's Doctor; indeed, the episode had a feel of one of the early new view ones.
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I told a friend today (paraphrasing) that Moffat can only do two kinds of stories: Those in which too much happens, and those in which nothing happens. He somehow avoided the episode being 'too boring', but it didn't feel like it was worth the long wait (to see a 'non-Christmas' episode) that we had to put up with Moff could go 'try really hard' to make his two programs better.

We usully get the quiet, 'Doctor-light' episode somewhere along the way every year. I guess this was Moff's idea of an experiment. It kinda worked, and kinda didn't.
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All things considered, a puddle of water is a pretty crappy monster. This is the closest Nu-Who has come to what I thought the show was like when I avoided it in the Eighties. And speaking of the Eighties, that CGI wasn't even as good as what we saw in James Cameron's The Abyss, released in 1989.

I kind of thought Bill bears a resemblance to River, but that just might be because they both have curly hair and the show kept cutting to River's picture.
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New rumours concerning David Bradley and the Xmas
special,considering the picture of Susan on the desk,it
may be credible!
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If the "First" Doctor (Hartnell) is the genesis regeneration - I'd love to see a cross-over with the current Doctor (whomever that is) and a twenty-something version of "The Doctor" on Gallifrey before he became "The Doctor" but perhaps his meeting with himself planted the seed....???
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IIRC, Moffat is on record as saying there's no contractual requirement to use the Dalek's in every series.

Edited by Robbie Moubert on 18 April 2017 at 4:13am
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New rumours concerning David Bradley and the Xmas 
special,considering the picture of Susan on the desk,it 
may be credible!
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I was reading about that this morning. I've been telling my son that I'd like to see what's been rumored to happen. So thumbs up from me.
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