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Jozef Brandt
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Posted: 08 November 2018 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply


Speaking as someone who loved Brick, and thought Looper and Brother's Bloom were both decent flicks, I can't believe that the same thoughtful person created The Last Jedi.  He makes the expanded universe (now known as legends) look sane in comparison.  I think Kathleen Kennedy allowed him to disregard the work of the Star Wars story team in some strange roll of the dice to distinguish her Star Wars from the rest of the canon and they crapped out and now have put themselves into some strange headspace/alternative reality where the only responses they have to criticism are completely divorced from reality. 

In regards to that last quote of his, I can't imagine any sort of child (and especially no adult) watching the OT and interpreting Luke Skywalker that way.  The whole point of the OT was that it ended with a *changed* Luke Skywalker. 
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I finally watched this. Probably worse than FA in my opinion. But I don't understand some things (and this is a long thread so help me please.)

Why doesn't the rebel leader tell Poe what the plan is, instead of letting him mutiny?

The code breaker guy reveals that the rebels are flying cloaked ships to the planet--how did he find this out?
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Posted: 24 November 2018 at 4:14pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Carrie Fisher died, would it not have been more apt, for
Princess Leia to die in this than the awful space walk
thing?
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Posted: 25 November 2018 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply


In terms of plot specifics, nothing about THE LAST JEDI makes much sense at all.

I found it entertaining and enjoyable during many parts--and I found the dialogue and acting to be noticeably better than THE FORCE AWAKENS--but as a story, I must agree that it's a mess.  I plan on rewatching it in the next couple weeks... it'll be interesting to see if any of it holds-up.



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Posted: 25 November 2018 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

One of the many things that bother me about Last Jedi is the lack of Force ghost presence. Where is Yoda or Obi-Wan when Luke was dealing with young Kylo? Why doesn't Anakin appear to Kylo and tell him not to worship Darth Vader because he was wrong? 

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Posted: 25 November 2018 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

That seems a case of overthink. Why should Kylo be in contact with Anakin's 'ghost presence' at all? Presumably turning to the Dark Side would cut you off from this anyway. Or why didn't Qui-Gonn constantly beset the Emperor? "He's not an Emperor, he's a very naughty boy!"

The help or non-help of Jedi spirits has been sporadic at best throughout the series -- and, I would argue, seems to be limited to some kind of direct contact during the living years.
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Posted: 11 December 2018 at 7:39pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I finally, finally got around to watching this. It's ... not too bad. Not the dumpster fire that fans accuse it of being. It's certainly the most gorgeous looking Star Wars film yet. Movie-making technology has come a long way. 

I think Lucasfilm's mistake was in managing expectations for the film. I recall the trailers making TLJ seem like a more serious movie, similar to The Empire Strikes Back. Nobody expected a trippy deconstruction of Luke Skywalker and all of Star Wars. Fans were really let down, and I can understand why they remain unforgiving of the filmmakers. 

Deconstruction should be the very last resort, when a franchise has lost all its fans. Because at that point, there's nothing to lose. It certainly should not be utilized at the height of a property's popularity. This is a colossal blunder. 





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Jim Muir
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<<The code breaker guy reveals that the rebels are flying
cloaked ships to the planet--how did he find this out?>>

I was channel hopping last night and happened on the very
scene: It's while Finn, Rose(?) and code breaker guy are
in hyperspace back to the fleet. Finn is talking to the
rebel leader over the radio. You get a close up of Del
Toro just as she mentions the plan.

Though why the leader was fine revealing the plan to Finn
but not Poe is anyone's guess.
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Stephen Churay
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Posted: 15 December 2018 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Why doesn't the rebel leader tell Poe what
the plan is, instead of letting him
mutiny?
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Because if she didn't treat him like shit
there would be no movie?

When I initially watched this film, I
liked it. But as i thought about it, and
watched it again, it started to show its
flaws. Now, I think this is the biggest
dumpster fire of a movie, I've ever seen.
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