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Ivan Black
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Posted: 15 December 2017 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I mainly enjoyed act 1 and 3. The whole mid-section of the film with the casino did not feel like Star Wars to me at all, but something from an early Harry Potter film, and I was utterly bored. Also, a whole bunch of star destroyers couldn´t take out a few rebel ships for hours on end? Really??? I wish they would have fleshed out more about Luke’s past, and I think this trilogy’s biggest missed opportunity was not to have the trinity of Luke, Han and Leia reunited at some point.
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Sad to think that it's possible that Leia would have survived throughout this trilogy, but the real-life passing of Carrie Fisher means it's now likely Leia will die offscreen. No matter what, we won't get to see her again, except in flashback, or such.
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The whole ‘car chase’ makes zero sense to me. Do a flipping micro jump and get ahead of them and the blast them out of the cosmos.
I cannot believe how long that chase went on. People literally fly to another planet and have a mini adventure while an entire fleet chase a ship without once doing a micro jump.

Just one of my problems with this film.
There are good bits, but the bad outweigh the good in my memory.
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Wow, I'm still avoiding spoilers and averting my eyes from the posts above, but I'm kind of stunned & shocked at just how ANGRY some of the user reviews are over at IMDb... I'm not reading the full posts, but the subject lines alone are quite the eye-opener.

Is THE LAST JEDI somehow shaping-up to be the most divisive STAR WARS movie ever made...?



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Craig Bogart
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Posted: 15 December 2017 at 9:31pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Another thing that stuck out to me...  was it because I was sitting too close to the screen, or are there some really bad green screen effects in this movie, also?

Edit: This movie also suffers from the time lapse problem that plagues Empire...  where Luke trains to be a Jedi in the time it takes Han Solo to fly from Hoth to Bespin.

Here, Rey trains with Luke in the eighteen hours Finn and Rose have to complete their mission.


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So...the new bombers were like my favorite thing in the movie, but they seem to be pretty ridiculous from a scientific viewpoint (even within a universe that has a lot of weird stuff going on). Does anyone know if the creators came up with some sort of excuse for the bombs working in the absence of gravity?
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One thing I loved about this film is the
director reminding the audience, who the
storyteller is. JB once talked about this.
We as fans, become invested in these
characters and tend to think we have a
dialogue with the creators, on what and
how things should happen.

But it's not a dialogue, it's a monologue.
They are the storytellers and we are the
audience. Rian Johnson took the three
biggest TFA/TLJ theories, "Who's Rey's
parents?","Who is Snoke?" and "Will Luke
take the lightsaber?", and threw them to
the side. Or...over the shoulder, if you
will.

In doing so, there's a bit of using fan
speculation as a sort of slight of hand,
to deliver the actual story, as well as a
bit of putting fans in there place.
We are the audience. As much as we want to
speculate about the story, he's the
storyteller.

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Seen it twice already. I really liked it. Sad that Luke is gone* but i understand why it was done and it was done beautifully. Very sad that none of the original three will be in the last movie. 

I really liked that it went places that were totally unexpected. The Force was used in ways we’d never seen before. Poe had a big character arc. Just wish I liked him more. He’s my least favorite of the new crew. 

I’m glad we got to see Luke be a total badass. It seems Han rubbed off on him a bit thru the years. 



*Force Ghost to further train Rey in Ep IX maybe?
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Posted: 16 December 2017 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

If he ever sees it, Kirkman will hate it. 
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Posted: 16 December 2017 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

some sort of excuse for the bombs working in the absence of gravity?
+++++++++++

The bombs are surrounded by "smart" electro-magnets. They're not falling from gravity but rather magnetically attracted to the hull of their intended target.


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Posted: 16 December 2017 at 1:21pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

all the parts with Finn and Rose (which had zero impact on the story, when all was said and done; they burned up a lot of screen time for a mission that went absolutely nowhere)
+++++++++++++

Because one of the themes is how we learn from failure. Luke fails, Rey fails, Finn and Rose fail, Poe fails, Holdo fails, all of which reinforces this theme.

Lots of people die as a result, and yes it's terrible. And yes it probably could have been avoided if otherwise smart people hadn't made poor choices. But smart people do make poor choices, and they must learn to live with those consequences.

I loved it.
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Posted: 16 December 2017 at 3:49pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I can't help but feel that the writing on these movies is very much a sign of the times, like what JB has talked about before. i.e No one writing any truly heroic characters to look up to anymore, because that might mean they're better than us. And who could relate to that? (Rolls eyes..)

So instead the pendulum swings too far in the opposite direction. And in their attempts to give us flawed more 'realistic' protagonists, they divest the characters of so much that made them heroes in the first place. I know that was kinda the point of the film, stripping back legends like that, but wasn't Star Wars meant to be something of a fairytale? Now almost all the heroes of the original saga seem so tarnished, verging on out and out failures in some instances. And the fairytale happy ending of Jedi is revealed to be nothing of the sort.

I wish they'd left the original characters just well enough alone. And instead did a time jump to the next generation. (Sigh!) I guess these movies just aren't for me anymore.
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