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Robbie Parry
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Posted: 22 June 2018 at 7:12am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It has to be a joke. Do they REALLY think a Disney executive will say, "Gee, maybe we'd better give them a shot. Get legal to give them a call..."?
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It don't think it's a joke per se, but it is just posturing.

Clearly they don't seem to understand that raising the money does not and will not ever give them the IP rights. Nor will they ever raise that money. A production budget north of $200 million for a film that very few would want to see? No serious investor would touch it.

It would be amusing to see what the expensive mess would end up as, but basically they are blowing hot air as a new way to be seen and heard. 

Let me save them a lot of time and money and translate their message: 'WAAAAAAH! I didn't like the movie! It's not fair!'

I am surprised no-one at Disney has had a quiet word with Rian Johnson to say, 'Hey, Rian, please stop trolling the fanatics.' 
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It would be interesting to see a "remake" from these fans. I mentioned before that by now STAR WARS is so big in people's minds , there's practically no way to please everyone,  even every fan. I'd wager this proposed "do-over," if it could ever happen in any reality, would likely piss off hardcore fans, too.

Anyway, silly waste of energy.
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Posted: 23 June 2018 at 8:06pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply


Some fans just need to step outside, get a breath of fresh air, and move on with their lives.



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I know I am VERY late to the game here, but I just YESTERDAY saw this movie.  I barely enjoyed it.

I think my main issue with it, is this was the first STAR WARS movie I can recall, that I finished watching, saying to myself: "there was no MEAT to it."  I can't really recall anything of significance happening.  Yes, Luke dies, but, it was an almost "so, what" moment in how badly is was handled.

Snoke dies, but again, "so, what" - he was just a really evil force user in the final analysis, there was no great revelation about his origins.  

We find our that Rey is a big, fat nobody, which is SUPPOSED to be a deep, poignant, almost painful revelation, but ultimately, it was so empty.  SO empty, in fact, you have to wonder if Ren/Ben was lying to her.

The only scene I can recall that made me "feel" anything was when Leia subconsciously uses the Force to save herself after the bridge explosion that blows her into space.

I love STAR WARS - I am a dyed-in-the-wool fan, I even LOVE the prequels, I love the over-the-top melodrama and cheesy dialogue. I love it all. ALL, until now.

Marc



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Christopher Frost
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Since Ben was trying to manipulate Rey, you should take anything he told her in the film with a grain of salt.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 09 July 2018 at 1:49am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Well said, Marc.

Many people like the film, but I have never heard any answers to the questions you pose.

Snoke dies, so... what changes? Nothing changes.
Luke dies, so... what changes? Nothing changes.
Rey is not from any known lineage so... what changes? Nothing changes.

The random way these points get dropped undercuts anything they could add to the overall meaning of the picture. Nothing changes in terms of plot and nothing is achieved in terms of theme.

Big disappointment.

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(Marc & Mark:  Thanks for writing some criticism of THE LAST JEDI that did not resort to any "SJW" and anti-female nonsense!)



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Mark Haslett
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A common defense of this movie is to attack its critics.

I would not be surprised if the amount of positive writing on TLJ that's intended to discredit the critics is 10x the amount which simply sings its praises.

This is one movie that seems far more interesting to defend than it is to watch.
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I struggle with the compressed timeframe the entire
movie seems to exist in.

The rebels being pursued by the Star Destroyer can't
last longer than a few hours surely? (otherwise -if
they knew they couldn't catch up - why wouldn't the
First Order just send for another Destroyer to
intercept them?)

... but Rey's training appeared to last weeks. She
certainly spent a few nights there.

Mark H's comments upthread 'Nothing changes' are spot
on, I feel. Rian Johnson seems to have gone out of his
way to undo everything that happened in The Force
Awakens, but to no effect.
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... but Rey's training appeared to last weeks. She 
certainly spent a few nights there.

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It's GAME OF THRONES-style. Just because scenes happen in a certain order, doesn't mean they are happening within the same timeframe in that same order. At the end of TFA, Rey and Chewie depart for Ahch-To, arrive, and Rey encounters Luke. That's the point where she begins her story in TLJ.

Meanwhile, the First Order has had time to regroup since the destruction of Starkiller Base, seize control after destroying the Republic, locate the Resistance, and arrive just as the base is evacuated. That all couldn't have happened during Rey's flight.
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Posted: 10 July 2018 at 10:50am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Michael: It's GAME OF THRONES-style. Just because scenes happen in a certain order, doesn't mean they are happening within the same timeframe in that same order. At the end of TFA, Rey and Chewie depart for Ahch-To, arrive, and Rey encounters Luke. That's the point where she begins her story in TLJ.

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Where did you get this impression?
TLJ literally picks up at the moment the previous movie ends. This is true for each storyline-- Rey, Finn, etc., so how is there room for one storyline to be non-simultaneous with the other? Further, how is there room for a difference of weeks?

Not that it matters, Empire Strikes Back has the same "issue" -- Luke's training has the impression of lasting for weeks while Han and Leia seem to never get a moment's peace and are reunited with Luke in what feels more like a couple days.

Non-related Empire Strikes Back question: This just came up in joking around about this with my son the other day, but: what is the Empire doing inside their Star Destroyers that creates so much trash that they have tons of Millennium Falcon-sized debris to jettison every time they make the jump to light speed?
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Kicking the crap out of the populace, wrecking their ships and dumping them. You know. Empire stuff
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Not that it matters, Empire Strikes Back has the same
"issue" -- Luke's training has the impression of
lasting for weeks while Han and Leia seem to never get
a moment's peace and are reunited with Luke in what
feels more like a couple days.

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Isn't the flight to cloud city done in a way where it
could have taken them weeks to get there? Since the
hyper drive didn't work, they had to have some slower
drive that eventually got them there. In the role
playing game they referred to a "hyper-drive backup"
which is like 12 times slower than regular hyper
drive.

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James: Kicking the crap out of the populace, wrecking their ships and dumping them. You know. Empire stuff

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I LIKE THAT!
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Thanks Mark
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