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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 10 April 2017 at 11:00pm | IP Logged | 1
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Dave Phelps wrote:
If you're using that as an example of the Democrats'hyperpartisanship, you're reaching pretty far. |
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Particularly so when you consider that the ACA framework was based in large part on Mitt Romney's plan enacted while he was Governor of Massachusetts. To opine that Obama and the Dems created the ACA out of whole cloth and was an entirely Democratic plan without measures to be inclusive of both parties interests would be revisionist history of the highest order.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 6:38am | IP Logged | 2
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It still blows me away that not so long ago, a paid (and secret) Turkish agent was appointed Director of the NSA.------------------------------------- Who are you talking about?
Edited to add: Do you mean Flynn himself? He wasn't director of the NSA.
Edited by Peter Martin on 11 April 2017 at 6:43am
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Eric Doyle Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 7:33am | IP Logged | 3
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you're reaching pretty far. ------------------------------------------------------ Obamacare had zero GOP support, it was pushed through using reconciliation process. While there was a GOP bill in the 90's that had some GOP support, it surely wasn't a majority and died immediately. There are also some key differences in Romney Care as well, size, scope and preventative measures to name a few. The only bipartisan thing about Obamacare was in the House, you had Democrats voting against it. So, yes I guess it wasn't hyper partisanship, some Democrats voted with GOP against it.
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Brennan Voboril Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 8:40am | IP Logged | 4
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Flynn was a paid Turkish secret agent? On March 29, before the cruise missile attack on Syria, Thomas Friedman, in the New York Times no less, accused Trump of being a Chinese agent.
Edited by Brennan Voboril on 11 April 2017 at 8:41am
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | 5
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Why is this mother fucker still collecting a paycheck from US tax payers?
Seriously......
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David Allen Perrin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 3:27pm | IP Logged | 6
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Retweeted Adam Singh Hayer (@ASinghHayer):
Pepsi - "No one could make a bigger PR mistake than us." United - "Hold my beer...."
Sean Spicer - "You two are are amateurs, watch this!"
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David Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | 7
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QUOTE:
Who are you talking about?
Edited to add: Do you mean Flynn himself? He wasn't director of the NSA. |
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I mean Flynn. I've managed to spend the past thirty years thinking the National Security Advisor was head of the National Security Agency.
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Dave Phelps Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | 8
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Eric Doyle wrote:
Obamacare had zero GOP support, it was pushed through using reconciliation process. While there was a GOP bill in the 90's that had some GOP support, it surely wasn't a majority and died immediately. There are also some key differences in Romney Care as well, size, scope and preventative measures to name a few. The only bipartisan thing about Obamacare was in the House, you had Democrats voting against it. So, yes I guess it wasn't hyper partisanship, some Democrats voted with GOP against it. |
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Only partially true (the bill was passed by majority vote in the Senate; tweaked via reconciliation by the House so it wouldn't be sent for a re-vote; then passed by majority vote in the House), but let's run with it. Why was there "no GOP support"? What was so horrifying about this bill that not a single GOPer was willing to go with it? It was built off a Republican bill, Democratic notions like a "Public Option" were cut from the final product in an attempt to secure Republican votes, while the American Heritage Foundation's individual mandate stayed in. The Democrats spent a frickin' year shaping and reshaping the bill trying to get Republican votes before finally giving up and going forward without them. Again, who were the hyperpartisans here?
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | 9
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My god. The rest of the world just laughs every time Spicer opens his uninformed, uneducated pie hole. What a fucking dumbass.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 April 2017 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | 10
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Surely now, surely now, he must be sacked. This is just rediculous in the extreme.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 April 2017 at 4:14am | IP Logged | 11
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Sean Spicer must be discharged? Only a reasonable boss would do that. And remember who is his boss... "Best news conference ever. That Hitler was yuge."
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 12 April 2017 at 5:48am | IP Logged | 12
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Sadly, Eric, I strongly suspect that's probably what was said to him....
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