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Thomas Woods
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Posted: 20 February 2019 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Mueller Report next week

Anti Trump James Clapper says in will be "anti-cimactic"

Brace for MSM excuses and Butt-hurt on a monumental
scale. They embraced it full force from day one, Russia
this, Russia that.

Internal bipartisan committee who had the same info
declared no evidence of collusion a week or two ago.
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Sure, dude. I'm sure you'll be back with Youtube links supported by male virility supplements when it happens.
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Thomas Woods
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Hey the youtube guys are getting better ratings than
CNN, far more trustworthy and balanced.
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Thomas Woods
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Did you know they were getting so popular that You
Tube had to change the algorithms and make main stream
media videos appear at top first no matter how low
their views were?

They get all the help they can from the big tech
companies to stay viable, and yet most don't like
them, don't trust them. They embrace complete hoaxes
of stories like the catholic MAGA HAT kid, and the
latest one the actor Jussie Smollett staged hate crime
attack on himself. They have full blown exposed
themselves as political activists instead of news
casters. And yet some still think they are the only
people you should be listening to.
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[double facepalm]
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I don't usually post memes, but I think this one is a perfect reply to people like Thomas.

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Mueller Report next week

Anti Trump James Clapper says in will be "anti-cimactic" [sic]
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Do you have a credible source for this? Curiously, if you google it every single headline comes from a whacko right wing 'news' source, claiming Clapper said it in a CNN interview. I'm having trouble finding it direct from the source though. Not saying he didn't say it, just that I can't find it from a news source that I find reliable.

Did come across an interview with a recent Clapper interview though in which he agreed with Andrew McCabe that Trump might possibly be a Russian asset and that he characterises McCabe as "incredibly professional, dedicated and honest" and added "I find him credible, bottom line." 
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Peter, we may have come across the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/CNNReplay/videos/333304327296492/?v =333304327296492

He comments on the Meuller investigation near the end.

From the transcript:


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CLAPPER: Well, I don't know. I mean, that's the big -- the big question. I think that the hope is that the Mueller investigation will clear the air on this issue once and for all. I'm really not sure it will and the investigation, when completed, could turn out to be quite anticlimactic and not draw a conclusion about that. Again, I don't know.

Now, the unknown here, at least for me, is what might the Congress do on its own, particularly the House Intelligence Committee or the House Judiciary Committee. It would take the Mueller investigation's results and go on from there, and I have no idea where that would lead.


That strikes me more as concern that the Meuller investigation is only just scratching the surface more than what I take as Thomas' interpretation that he considers the whole thing to be a big nothing-burger.

Collusion or so, the main thrust of his comments is more that he is "very concerned" that Donald Trump may be a Russian asset, albeit possibly an unwitting one:


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CLAPPER: Well, the strange thing I think that's bothered a lot of people, both in and out of the Intelligence Community, is this strange personal deference to Putin by the president. And I've speculated in the past that the way Putin behaves is to treat President Trump as an asset and --


And from slightly earlier:


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I would and have added the caveat, whether witting or unwitting. And I think that's an important distinction, which I think would somewhat, at least in my mind, soften that a bit.


I can't see either scenario as a good one, myself.

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Do you have a credible source for this?

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Ironically, I saw it on Drudge Report headline crediting CNN and felt
confident it was true without looking deeper. If it was just one guy
saying it, I shouldn’t have posted it. But a lot of people seem to think it
is soon.
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I often wondered if there was a rule on here that memes are not
allowed, cause I never see them
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 Thomas Woods wrote:
They embrace complete hoaxes 
of stories like ...the latest one the actor Jussie Smollett staged hate crime 
attack on himself

I'm taking this one because it's the most recent.  This claim is bullshit, Thomas.  News agencies ran with a story that Smollett was the victim of a hate crime, true, because a) no one had credible evidence at the time that is wasn't and b) the Chicago PD didn't dispute it.  But it's been front page news as it's evolved in every publication from the Washington Post, to the NY Times to the LA Times and every publication in-between.  It's what's called (work with me here) an evolving story.  No agency, so-called MSM or otherwise, has run with the same story for the last month.  None.  Zip.  In fact, most started questioning its veracity days after it was first reported.

But, hey, don't let that fact get in the way of a good MSM slam from you, a self-purported "independent".  HA!  Doesn't read that way at all, but whatever gets you through the day.
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It's tough to debate when what constitutes fact and when knowledge is obtained are ignored in favor of jumping to conclusion.
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Thomas Woods
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Matt I cant really argue that one because I didn’t follow it well, sounds
like you have been following it.

But typically they seem to grab on a story and the more maga hate it is
the better. So they will spend a lot of time on it. But when the facts start
coming out they hesitate to correct things right away, or report on it less
— drag their feet.

I don’t know if that is what happened this time. Is the time they spend
now revealing it was a hoax as much as the time they spent on it when
it was a maga hate crime?
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You don't have to have followed the Jessie Smollett story to practice the simply act of investigating BEFORE you label it a hoax and blame CNN for following it when the story broke. The story evolved over the course of four weeks. Saying a news organization's reporting is flawed due to where the story is after four weeks of investigation, as if that somehow proves their journalistic malpractice, is the heart of your idiotic statement. Back pedaling and saying you "didn't follow it" surfaces your lack of critical thought, which I and perhaps others find as a deeply troubling quality.


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I know quite a bit of the story really, but not the
subject at hand, which is how much time was spent on the
truth vs non truth. I don't watch CNN so I can't know.
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Too many misinterpret lack of objectivity with "fake".
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I'm not faulting your lack of knowledge on the story, but rather you pointing to it as proof some news organizations are being helped by big tech companies and have nefarious motives. Further, citing this as the reason that YouTube opinion rants are more journalistic credible is like jumping off one cliff to jump off another. Apply some critical thought. Reporting this story does not prove a journalist or news organization is being propped up financially to avoid some YouTube truth onslaught by opinion ranting individuals with a video camera.

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If Smollett has indeed staged his own attack it's the kind of stupid stuntism that further fuels and empowers the flip-side of the extremist coin they rightly dislike so much... same as with the restaurant harassers. And it seems to just take one example to cast everything else about the left or mainstream media into doubt for some. I conservatively tend to go with known long-standing quality brands over relatively recently begun websites, and generally if the New York Times or Washington Post publishes it it has been through the gauntlet of scrutiny and fact-checking as opposed to the New York Post and Washington Times, or Brietbart, Buzzfeed, or Mr. President's bizarre yet beloved Twitter rant feed. Can anyone say that this is the wrong way to approach getting reliable information? For tv/radio I would rate CBC Canada, PBS/NPR US and BBC UK highest.

I do not hope that the coast guard white supremacist with a hit list of Democrat party and media figure turns out to be a hoax, nor have wished it to be real to start with, but it is very alarming even in an atmosphere of alarm bells ringing for over two years now! I am beyond worried about my neighbor and loved ones there and the world. Perhaps I will start helping collect plastic trash along the shoreline or something, anything, to do something positive and start tuning out a little even though I have always felt that just knowing what is going on as best as one can is doing something.


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There are lots of people that seem to want change in the world, but perhaps feel powerless to make change occur. Their methods differ wildly; stage a hate crime or murder, but the feeling of political impotence seems to running rampant.
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For the record, CNN has committed plenty of coverage to the changes in the Smollett story. They currently have a webpage headed 'LIVE UPDATES: Jussie Smollett Arrested' and live on air right now (aptly enough on a programme called CNN Right Now) they have a fixed block of text on the screen saying SOON: 'Empire' star in court.
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Peter, clearly a demonstration on how they "hesitate to correct things right away" when the facts start coming out. =/  Riiiiiight
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