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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 17 August 2018 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Rasmussen is biased as a pollster... with their question wordings (of only likely voters) being fairly skewed at times to produce slanted results. I'm sure there are similar pollsters on the other sides of things too, just saying there has been scrutiny and criticism of that particular company... although they were closer to the reality on the 2016 election obviously and even then had Hillary ahead by 2.1% or somesuch (maybe that's the 3,000,000 odd more votes she got anyway).

Trump is now using his powers to punish for entirely political and personal protection on the Russian collusion issue reasons. His days are pretty much numbered now even if his judges intervene on his behalf at some point and Republicans continue to fear his professed popularity. Either that or law and order is thrown out the window in the U.S. completely. His donors are upset he used their donations to pay people like Omarosa. His Penn ave. parade idea and Space Force stuff is just childish fantasy terrain. The hype about the economy is showing up more and more as exaggeration and outright false claims. Going going gone I would think. It won't be people in the streets that get him out but holding him to a basic standard and the laws and rules everyone else has to operate under. But go ahead and pardon manafort as a vbery good person, that'll just prove how common and caring about the average working person he ever was. I want Kelly-Anne Conway gone like Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and all those other bad pennies who kept turning up again and again should've been too. And Maxine Waters on the other side. When you get a bad egg with bad results don't let them come back; you'd have avoided Nixon that way (not a good VP), and the Dems more Clinton capers perhaps (stood by that man, not a virtue). I still don't know how Howard Dean got laughed out of existence over a phony sounding 'yeahhhh' and these other people seem to go on like energizer bunnies after having shown themselves to be rotten. American voters really need to start backing decent solid people and not some flashy celeb type with a lot of promises and supposedly inspiring words. Just get capable and actually smart people to do a job! Vision, charisma, deep values/faith and all that stuff just gets things on the fast train to stupidville.

Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 17 August 2018 at 11:21pm
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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 18 August 2018 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Despite an entire lack of charisma (as I see him), Trump is trying still to create his cult of charisma - and worst, it seems to be working. Notwithstanding is own transgressions (their name is Legion, and if I had an excess of time, I could make a list... unless I exceeded the character count for any given post), he is still taking actions and making decisions that are meant to inhibit people, transgress existing laws, and misdirect the American public. 

Further, he doesn't seem to realize that:
1) He doesn't really know a lot;
2) He is usurping responsibilities of those in his cabinet and government by his actions;
3) He is demolishing the credibility of his staff when they release press statements and then he casually reverses these statements at a whim;
4) He is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He is under constant scrutiny (as he should be) and EVERY SINGLE COMMENT, NOTION, or VERBALIZED THOUGH is treated as US policy and mandates for action. Unless he is very carefully in private, and out of view of the public eye*, what he bloviates is how the country and the world see the United States. If he says the Attorney General "should" investigate Mueller's investigation, that's an official order from any other president. If he states he couldn't see why Russia would be interfering with U.S. politics and elections, that's carved in stone; he doesn't get to walk it back.

*And we all know that 45 thrives in view of the public eye; if there's a venue to speak at, or a Twitter that he can post for all to see, he's fanatical about jumping on it. I don't pay attention, but I wonder if Trump is delivering weekly state of the country radio speeches? Sort of his "fireside chats"?

The trend towards a dictatorship is horrifying. And worst is that those who have fallen for his cult are acting and speaking on his behalf. That's why there are death threats; that's why there are citizens of this country who are terrified of their neighbors. That's why children and parents are being separated.

The real crime is that there's no counterpoint that any of his true believers will accept to show how bizarre actions are. They do not believe the mainstream media - they're calling it Fake News. They do not accept factual evidence; they want their own facts. And in their way, they are the organized voter base that will support him. The opposition to Trump MUST coordinate and vote in eighty-odd days, or the worst (hard as it seems) will be yet to come.

Edited by Eric Sofer on 18 August 2018 at 12:53pm
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Matt Reed
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Posted: 18 August 2018 at 11:53pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

What you don't realize, Eric, is that we're still waiting for PROOF.  If I, personally, don't have access to it then it doesn't exist.  If the Special Counsel hasn't told me, Matt Reed (common citizen), that collusion exists even though they can't because it's an ongoing investigation, that means you're all grasping at straws.  I mean seriously.  I've been waiting less than two years and even though there's enough anecdotal evidence to choke a horse, if I'm not personally privy to the entirety of the investigation before it's ready for presentation, then it simply did not happen.  

Did.  Not.  Happen.


You're all libtard dummies.  Snowflakes.  You just want to bring down the greatest man that has ever occupied the White House short of old Abe himself, who I can't tire of reminding you was a Republican even though the parties are so different between then and now as to make the distinction all but moot.  

So keep playing in the kiddie pool while the "adults" try to get back to the business of running the government; tacitly obstructing justice by doing nothing to hold the sitting president accountable for absolutely anything he says or does, giving huge tax breaks to the .01%, and taking out loans from the very government against whom we're levying tariffs.  Oh, and making sure the House doesn't bring any legislation forward that doesn't absolutely, 100% have the approval of Trump.  Yeah!  We're making America GREAT again.



Well...not really.  Unless you're a friend.  Or another rich guy.  Or someone from the swamp.  But, no.  Not the swamp because we're draining that,'ll get back to you.  Can't justify it yet, so best to deflect.  
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Jabari Lamar
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Posted: 19 August 2018 at 12:55am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

No, One-Third of African-Americans Don't Support Trump. Not Even Close.
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