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Fred J Chamberlain
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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Why Brian, the tax break being taken away is clearly the Clintonsí fault.
Before even reviewing specifics of the tax plan, it was easy to smell
something fishy. The very wealthy and large corporations were giddy
about it. The current model doesnít allow for prosperity for both the very
wealthy and the average American. You canít please both, so may as
well support your buddies and those with the $ to support you and your
regime.
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Netflix seems to have done well ... no Taxes
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So all you have to do is select anything listed on
MAGAPILL as a success and paste it into search to see
what everyone said about it. I suggest Duck Duck since
it has come out that Google changed the algorithms.

Here are a few examples:



Trump signs First Step Act criminal justice reform
into law

https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=Trump+signs+First+Step+Act+criminal+justice+reform+i
nto+law&atb=v149-5__&ia=news


Trump signs Historic USMCA trade agreement replacing
NAFTA

https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=Trump+signs+Historic+USMCA+trade+agreement+replacing
+NAFTA&atb=v149-5__&ia=web


Trump secures release of Pastor Brunson from Turkey

https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=Trump+secures+release+of+Pastor+Brunson+from+Turkey&
atb=v149-5__&ia=web


Trump has our soldiers remains returned home from
Korean War

https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=Trump+has+our+soldiers+remains+returned+home+from+Ko
rean+War&atb=v149-5__&ia=web


Trump signs Right to Try drug bill

https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=Trump+signs+Right+to+Try+drug+bill&atb=v149-
5__&ia=web


Trump secures release of American Prisoners from North
Korea

https://duckduckgo.com/?
q=Trump+secures+release+of+American+Prisoners+from+Nor
th+Korea&atb=v149-5__&ia=news
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The first one I found that I see was contested was
"Black Business Ownership Under Trump JUMPS 400 PERCENT
in ONE YEAR"
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Obama center-right?  What are you considering center?  Full blown communism? 
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Most of Obama's policies were indistinguishable from Reagan's.  In fact, in several areas, he was to the right of Ronald Reagan.  He deported more people than any other President in US history, where Reagan gave an amnesty.  Despite a growing number of states legalizing marijuana and wanting to treat it as a health issue rather than a crime issue, Obama radically strengthened enforcement of Federal marijuana and other drug laws, far beyond even Reagan's 'war on drugs' spending.  Obama's neo-liberal foreign policy was nearly indistinguishable from that of Reagan or the Bushes, he just had drones to use rather than having to insert the CIA and special forces and it was the Middle East rather than Central America.

American politics isn't real politics.  On a whole raft of issues revolving around the U.S.'s corporate capitalist system, establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans hold identical positions.  The two parties just line up on either side of a raft of social issues like abortion, guns, etc. in order to give a portion of the populace a reason to vote for one over the other.  But if you look at politics in Europe...or anywhere else in the world really...you see an actual array of parties representing positions from far left to far right and everywhere in between.

Have you ever thought about why it is that if I find out your opinion on gun control, I can predict with 95% certainty your position on abortion, climate change, gay rights, health care, etc. etc. etc.  These issues aren't actually related.  But for a few decades now, the American public has been sold this idea that there are only two teams in the game and you have to pick one.  The other guys are then a bunch of bums.  Its politics as team sports.  And somewhere lost in the shuffle is the idea that maybe the instruments of government could actually be used to make the lives of real people better.
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Itís a system they have crafted. I donít like it either
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Being the opposition used to be honorable. Debating, in earnest, toward the goal of benefiting the country was normal US politics. Somewhere along the way, thanks Newt, it became divisive. The absolute worst thing to happen in the GOP is the constituencies complete lack of desire to hold their leaders accountable. I have yet to hear any GOP supporter get angry about how their party abuses power. Might does not make right, but they won't see that until they are on the short end of the stick. If a tape of a conversation between Putin and Trump surfaced where Trump said he would do whatever Putin wanted, I dare say members of the Republican party would spin it as "acting in our best interests" instead of treason. When and if the Mueller report shows Russia's interests being put ahead of American interests we will surely see forgiveness and spin that puts the activity in a positive light. There are many GOP supporters that view splitting up families, treason and destruction of the middle class as the price you pay for a conservative majority Supreme Court. That it is somehow acceptable and that the end justify the means.

It takes a special kind of ignorance to think a large wall will be more effective than a fence, cutting taxes on the rich will eventually put money in the pockets of the middle class, that people are welfare are living the good life or that a safe world is one where every man, woman and child carries a gun. That level of ignorance resides exclusively in the current form of the GOP.
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Eric, did you hear about the often touted smoking gun
of blocked calls to Don JR. that took place just
before and just after that Russia meeting turned out
to be a realtor or something? It was nothing, and from
what I hear the media has not corrected themselves
openly for their way off base speculation.

I feel you will be met with the same disappointment
with the Mueller case.

And speaking of abuse of power, you don't think it was
total abuse of power and corruption that they are
looking under every nook and cranny on Trump, while at
the same time completely ignore all the shifty things
that were going on with Clinton. They were obvious
allies in this whole thing.

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The Clinton family was investigated all the way down to the Pizza Parlor level to find the childr rape/trafficking ring. How can you say it wasn't extensive? All jokes aside, count up the number of investigations, agencies/organization that performed them and the number of days for each and compare them, Clinton to Trump, and then we can compare apples to apples for the abuse of power discussion. Remember, this supposed abuse of  power is coming during a two year period of GOP controlled White House, Upper and Lower Congress. So who was abusing the power?


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 Thomas Woods wrote:
Eric, did you hear about the often touted smoking gun of blocked calls to Don JR. that took place just before and just after that Russia meeting turned out to be a realtor or something?


An investor with ties to Russia and the President of NASCAR. Doesn't tie Donald Trump himself to the infamous meeting, but it doesn't really take away from the notion that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.


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It was nothing, and from what I hear the media has not corrected themselves openly for their way off base speculation.


They have, but it's the same problem you have with any scandal that turns out not to have much merit (or not as much as you initially thought). Once you conclude there's nothing there, there's nothing else to say about it. So after weeks of "new revelations in the ______gate scandal", you get a day of "turns out to be nothing" and everyone moves on. (Partisan pundits aside.)    


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while at the same time completely ignore all the shifty things that were going on with Clinton


You have GOT to be joking.

#1 Every aspect of the Clinton's life has been held under a microscope for decades. It's just that the right wing media doesn't consider a matter being investigated and resolved as a reason to stop saying it needs to be investigated. (We're still in the middle of the first real Trump investigation, so it's a little early to say the left wing has a similar problem.)

#2 Even if I were to allow for uninvestigated shadiness on the Clinton's part, you DO understand that the potential illegal dealings of the currently serving President of the United States is of far greater importance than those of (now) private citizens, right?
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And speaking of abuse of power, you don't think it was 
total abuse of power and corruption that they are 
looking under every nook and cranny on Trump, while at 
the same time completely ignore all the shifty things 
that were going on with Clinton
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When the head of the FBI announced pre-election that the Bureau was re-opening a case into Hillary but kept quiet that they were also investigating the Trump campaign, we can see that things are not really as you describe above.

As for Donald Jr's meeting turning out to be nothing... He thought it was something. His emails show he was delighted at the opportunity to collude. He is therefore not absolved.
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Delighted to find dirt on opponent, not really a crime. And was
disappointed with the meeting almost immediately.

So dismissing the fbi giving her a cake walk case, didnít matter that
they smashed phones and iPads, doesnít matter that they never
handed over the server.

Similar excuses for the txt messages between fbi lovers wanting to take
out trump?

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 Thomas Woods wrote:
Delighted to find dirt on opponent, not really a crime.


Unless the source was an agent working for a foreign Government...


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And was disappointed with the meeting almost immediately.


"We tried to do something illegal but they didn't have anything good" is really NOT the best defense in the world.


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So dismissing the fbi giving her a cake walk case,


What would she have been charged for? From the second sentence I'm assuming this relates to the email thing, so... At the time of the offense, not using personal resources for official business was discouraged but not against the law, there was no evidence that she used her personal resources for anything other than convenience rather than as a way to get around archival and FOIA rules and the whole "extremely careless with classified information" thing is a nebulous term that's only been used to prosecute once in US history. (Plus, IIRC, these would have been messages she received rather than sent so wouldn't it make more sense to go after the people who sent the classified messages in the first place?)


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didnít matter that they smashed phones and iPads,


Any tech used for official business is supposed to be destroyed since even Unclassified information can be exploited if the wrong person gets ahold of it. They were basically applying standard Government policy to their personal gadgets.      


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doesnít matter that they never handed over the server.


Having trouble finding this one. Were they asked to?


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Similar excuses for the txt messages between fbi lovers wanting to take out trump?


"Take out Trump?" Seriously? And given that the one thing that Strzok did that could be seen as actively influencing the outcome of the election was co-write the Comey letter informing Congress that the FBI was reopening their investigation into Clinton's email server in late October, he sure picked a weird way to "take out Trump." ("First we'll help him get elected and then... we strike!")
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Clinton and Obama started talking a lot like full blown globalists, which  is really bad in any Trump supporters mind.

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And this is where Trump supporters are delusional. We donít live in the post-WWII era where the US remained largely unscathed and the rest of the world was rebuilding. Globalism is happening whether we want it to or not. Nationalism and isolationism is just ceding leadership in the areas we still have it.
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Having trouble finding this one. Were they asked to?

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Last I read, the DNC refused to hand over the server to
investigators. Instead the hired their own private firm
to look at it, called CrowdStrike.

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Nationalism and isolationism have consistently ended with poor results,
historically.
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 Thomas Woods wrote:
Last I read, the DNC refused to hand over the server to investigators. Instead the hired their own private firm to look at it, called CrowdStrike.


That wasn't about the Clinton thing, but rather the Russian hack of the DNC Server. And they DID provide the FBI with forensic copies of the servers and everything else CrowdStrike did, which Comey has confirmed. What they didn't do was give the FBI direct access to their servers, but it was because the DNC wanted to put their server (really servers) back to work.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-n either-missing-nor-a-server
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Ah, so there is a DNC server incident and a private
Hillary email server incident that I blended together in
my mind over time. Will have to read up on it.
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"North Korea, under the leadership of Kim Jong Un, will become a great Economic Powerhouse. He may surprise some but he wonít surprise me, because I have gotten to know him & fully understand how capable he is. North Korea will become a different kind of Rocket - an Economic one!"
-Donald Trump. Twitter

Waiting for the Trump supporters to spin this.
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Maybe they will rebrand as communists and starve themselves in work camps to own the libs
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North Korea has been rounding up Christians.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/north-korean-christians-keep-fa ith-in-underground-churches-1.4279904

"...captured in China and jailed once they were sent back to the North. Most denied their faith while being interrogated..."

^ A mainstream independent Canadian tv network news story.

We were insane to have anything to do with any communist countries ever, Nixon 'opening' China to trade was a massive mistake, they still have portraits of Mao everywhere who the say killed more of his own people than Stalin, who killed more than old Adolf even. getting in bed with Saudi Arabia also a mistake. Most of these mistakes seem to come from the Republicans though who you would think to trust to at least hate communism. Lovers of the U.S.A. and democracy when they undermine democratic forces like NATO and the EU while making pals with communists and nepotistic dictators?

How do we get back the middle, the center, the evil moderates? Moderate should be seen as another term for balance, but extreme left and right hate moderation and compromise now. This is just getting worse with extreme left fanatics wanting to fight, grabbing Kelly-Anne Conway in a restaurant, and name-calling back with hysterics and ever more stunts. :^(


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Delighted to find dirt on opponent, not really a crime
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It's illegal for a foreign national to make a donation, contribution or any other thing of value, or an to make an express or implied promised in connection with a Federal, State or local election.

It is also a crime for a person to solicit, accept or receive a contribution as described above from a foreign national.

Clearly there was a promise to make a contribution of value in connection with an election. Clearly it was accepted.
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Got to admit, all this back and forth regarding whether America will ever become a socialist country makes me laugh.

America became a socialist country the day it bailed out the banks and recognised that the government needed to interfere in a free market that went wildly off the rails.

But I'm sure the right do not view things that way.

I do think that a lot of Americans struggle to understand the difference between socialist and communist. As Christ Claremont once said, what the UK views as right wing, America would view as left wing, and what the UK views as left wing, America would arrest and throw in jail.

There is some truth in that.
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It's illegal for a foreign national to make a donation, contribution or any
other thing of value, or an to make an express or implied promised in
connection with a Federal, State or local election.

It is also a crime for a person to solicit, accept or receive a contribution
as described above from a foreign national.

Clearly there was a promise to make a contribution of value in
connection with an election. Clearly it was accepted.

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But they have not arrested him. There are lawmakers that argue he
didnít do enough, that the situation should be called a donation or
contribution. Nothing was handed over, etc. I think that part of the
investigation is pretty much a dead end.
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James WIím not an expert , so correct me if I am wrong.
But I think when Trump says we will never be socialist
he is talking about

- there is a dictator
- everyone is making the same amount of money
- everyone has the same house, car, etc
- everyone has the same healthcare
- the media is completely controlled
- no freedom, very little options in life.



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