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Don Zomberg
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Posted: 02 December 2016 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

To all those working class folks who voted for Trump, I can only quote Charlton Heston: "You got what you wanted, Tiger. How does it taste?"
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There is a large flat screen television in the waiting area of the place where I occasionally drop-off finished work. Yesterday, on my way out, I heard some chatter about Trump loudly blaring from the speakers, and, wondering if the President-elect had already somehow initiated the ICBM launch sequences, I went inside to take a look.

 There is a guy who works there (a staunch Trump supporter), who over the course of the past several months, never missed a chance to try and engage me in a debate over The Donald: "He's an outsider! A breath of fresh air! He'll set things right! He's going to fix this broken country! He's not a lying politician! He's going to keep every one of his campaign promises! You'll see!"

The guy was standing in the waiting room, watching the television, as the newscaster enumerated the various key campaign issues Trump has already "revised" - and he's not even President yet. 

Building the Wall? Turns out it's actually going to be more of a...fence (not unlike the fence we currently have). Immediate repeal of Obamacare? "I'll have to look at that, you know". Breaking the gridlock in Washington, sending those career politicians packing? He's currently surrounding himself with the same rank and file Republicans who have been running the show (at least on the GOP side) for decades.

The guy glanced at me, wearing an expression on his face not unlike someone who thinks they've passed gas, only to slowly discover it was actually explosive diarrhea. I think he expected me to gloat, but - nah. The people who voted for Trump were promised sweeping change, but  in reality were sold a bill of goods by a consummate con-man who played to their hopes and fears with the promise of a better tomorrow. 

They'll have the next four years to deal with their buyer's remorse.



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Posted: 02 December 2016 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Only if China hasn't blown us all to hell by then. Trump's royally pissed them off today by making a call to Taiwan. Of course, it's unsure if the call was from the president-elect of the United States or the owner of the Trump family of businesses. 
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Posted: 02 December 2016 at 7:08pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There is no difference between the two in this new era of the purely-for-profit presidency.

The idiots who sold out their country voting for this billionaire elitist will have to deal with a bit of buyer's remorse, it's true. And all the rest of us will as well right alongside them.

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Posted: 04 December 2016 at 4:21pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I'm really of the mind that Trump won't last a year before he's impeached and/or resigns.  If he's already having trouble with obvious conflicts of interest, it's not going to get any better.
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Posted: 04 December 2016 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

The Republican congress would never impeach Trump. Many of them despise him, but he's is all they've got. 
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Posted: 05 December 2016 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

They like Pence a LOT more, Joe.
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Posted: 05 December 2016 at 8:42am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

An impeachment of Trump would still be an impeachment of a Republican (or "Republican"); the GOP isn't going to do that barring something so catastrophic that even Trump's die hard supporters wouldn't object.  We've already seen that most of the GOP would rather fall in line, or dance around the minefields, than confront any of Trump's unsavory aspects.
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Acting presidential...

Yesterday he had a little anti-Chinese outburst on Twitter.

Today he tweeted:

"Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!"

Is this just an off-the-cuff remark? Is it an official policy position?

Shares in Boeing have fallen 1% on the remark.
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Posted: 06 December 2016 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

It's ridiculous for him to call for such a measure.  The planes are vital to a President's security.  They feature electronic countermeasures and counter attack defenses that will keep his orange ass ALIVE while in the air.

But if he and his Nazi Lite Brigade wants to fly around in that tacky, gold plated pigeon he calls and airplane, by all means...do it.


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I think what Trump is doing is negotiating the cost, not cancelling it altogether.  Or he may find someone else to build the planes if the cost is cheaper.  Obviously the planes need to be built.

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Posted: 06 December 2016 at 7:10pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

But if he and his Nazi Lite Brigade wants to fly around in that tacky, gold plated pigeon he calls and airplane, by all means...do it.

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Make sure Pence and Bannon are on there. 
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Posted: 07 December 2016 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

You can tell Trump has no clue (I know, shocking) about how important Air Force One is for a President's protection.  It's not just a fancy plane with extra gadgets and gizmos....
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Posted: 07 December 2016 at 12:23pm | IP Logged | 14 post reply

Okay, as someone who flies a LOT, I do have a silly question I wonder regarding Air Force One. I wonder if the lavatory doors still have ashtrays as the doors of all other planes do. Whatever company still manufactures and sells these ashtrays must know someone to have cemented such a call.
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Posted: 07 December 2016 at 1:23pm | IP Logged | 15 post reply

Or he may find someone else to build the planes if the cost is cheaper.  Obviously the planes need to be built.
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Good luck with that. Boeing are already contracted to make the planes. The US Government would have to pay over a hundred million dollars to Boeing if they go to a different company.

Crucially, this does not affect Trump's security during this term -- he will be using the current Air Force One. The one he is talking about cancelling will affect whosoever is President in 2020 and onward.

As for the actual accuracy of Trump's quoted number...

This is what Josh Earnest, the White House spokesperson, had to say:

"Some of the statistics that have been cited, shall we say, don't appear to reflect the nature of the financial arrangement between Boeing and the Department of Defence."


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Posted: 07 December 2016 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | 16 post reply

Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Based
on that....... hold onto your seats.
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Posted: 07 December 2016 at 2:21pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

"Some of the statistics that have been cited, shall we say, don't appear to reflect the nature of the financial arrangement between Boeing and the Department of Defence."


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From what was stated this morning on NPR, the current contract for this is actually $140 million. Which is a far cry from $4 billion.

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Posted: 08 December 2016 at 8:56am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Conan having fun with Trump and Obama's "friendship" -


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Posted: 08 December 2016 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | 19 post reply

Climate change denier as Environment head honcho? Sure why not.
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Posted: 08 December 2016 at 5:56pm | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Why not appoint Martin Shkreli as Surgeon General while we're at it. 
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Posted: 08 December 2016 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | 21 post reply

 Brian Miller wrote:
From what was stated this morning on NPR, the current contract for this is actually $140 million. Which is a far cry from $4 billion.


Don't confuse the first phase with the whole effort. Eventually it's going to get there, or pretty close to it. That said, the ~$4B is the planned cost for the program, not a sign of "massive overruns." They're nowhere near where that might start happening.
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Posted: 09 December 2016 at 11:51am | IP Logged | 22 post reply

Trump again reveals how little he knows about business, in this case, federal procurement. If he did find a way to cancel the contract--which is far from certain--the government would still owe Boeing a ton of money regardless. Trump isn't going to "save" $4B no matter how this plays out.
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Posted: 09 December 2016 at 1:04pm | IP Logged | 23 post reply

The guys who helped crash the economy seem to be joining the new Administration.... very scary.


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Posted: 09 December 2016 at 2:03pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

The Obama Administration left Trump a helluva gift. Unemployment is well under 5% and the stock market has almost tripled within the last 7 years as the DJI is now (as of today) over 19,500. 

Anyone wanna wager how long before Trump and his crew fuck this up?
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Posted: 09 December 2016 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 25 post reply

Say, didn't Bill Clinton leave office with the economy in great shape? There was even a budget surplus as I recall. Surely the Republicans won't mess things up twice in a row!
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