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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 21 September 2017 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

This series is appearing "dead on arrival"... what a fuckin' blown opportunity Inhumans seems to be. (too many poor choices it seems.*)


*Yes... Christina Hendricks as Medusa would've been GREAT!!

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Inhumans Cancelled by ABC

http://epicstream.com/news/Inhumans-Cancelled-By-ABC-Before- It-Even-Airs
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Too bad. I thought I saw some promise.
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I think the poster copy is being misinterpreted - the copy is distinguishing between the IMAX show and the series. Even if they did decide internally to cancel it, I don't think they would announce it before it premieres.

The Epicstream article linked above cites a source (Renew Cancel TV) that is speculating it is done, but Epicstream states it definitively. I don't see the industry or mainstream press reporting this.


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Premiering Inhumans on IMAX was a big mistake. The move raised everyone's expectations of a network T.V. show to the level of Marvel's cinematic releases. Which suggests that the execs in charge of Marvel's T.V. stuff aren't even paying attention to their own product. They probably think Agents of SHIELD would be as successful as Guardians of the Galaxy, if given a bigger FX and marketing budget. 





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Premiering any TV show in a theater is a lousy idea - those initial STAR WARS CLONE WARS episodes played just fine as TV episodes, but they didn't work strung together as a movie.

I think premiering in IMAX is a great marketing idea, but marketing should not lead these kinds of decisions.

I'm still checking it out when it premieres on TV.


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Posted: 23 September 2017 at 3:25am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Think of how these characters were simply WASTED for this ill conceived TV effort.  

I know Kevin Feige and Ike Purlmutter had a bit of a pissing contest surrounding Inhumans (that Feige obviously won) but he still can't be happy to see what appears to be a true, dismal failure coming out of the gate for Marvel Studios.  

I'd almost prefer the show not ever air in hopes that the IP can be introduced properly on the big screen SOMEDAY.
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What if it actually is a good show, tho?
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Brian - what's the difference if it's a good show? That doesn't matter to the networks and cable channels. Does it draw viewers and sell commercials? That's the only concern. Otherwise, shows such as "Duck Dynasty" or "Deadliest Catch", or most reality shows, might not be hitting quite so big.

But "a good show"? That doesn't matter the least little bit. I'm not sure it has for fifty years now.
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My comment was more a response to David saying he would rather the show not air. If it's a good show that represents the characters well, I want to see it. 
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Posted: 25 September 2017 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

If the show was actually good....would we be discussing its cancellation so soon?
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Posted: 25 September 2017 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

If the show was actually good....would we be discussing its cancellation so soon?

Network executives are a superstitious, cowardly lot.

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Posted: 25 September 2017 at 8:03pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

I just set my Xfinity box to record Inhumans this Friday.  It appears that the only episodes listed are the 1st two that made up the IMAX premier.  

The rest of the season is nowhere to be found.  

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David, you have been trashing this show for months - every post since the trailer has been negative. Why in the world are you going to watch it?
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It's hard to believe this thing hasn't premiered on television yet. I guess partially since the pilot coughed up a lungful of blood in movie theaters almost a month ago the dying throes have gone on so long that like much of 2017 it feels like Trinity's death in Matrix Revisited. I won't be surprised if ABC draws out the suffering by arbitrarily postponing the last three episodes until February.
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 I know Kevin Feige and Ike Purlmutter had a bit of a pissing contest surrounding Inhumans (that Feige obviously won) but he still can't be happy to see what appears to be a true, dismal failure coming out of the gate for Marvel Studios.

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Why would Inhumans be a failure for Marvel Studios? It's from Marvel Television. 
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@ Tim -

Go back to my earlier posts. NOBODY was more excited for this than me.

I love the Inhumans and the initial casting had me very optimistic.  
I honestly thought they were going for it and try to do full-on superhero adventures on TV.  

Turns out they went the 'grounded' route.  And I was instantly bummed out.

I was going to watch anyway because I wanted to see how right or wrong I was in my assessment.   And since few have seen episodes beyond what was shown in the IMAX premiers, maybe things got better and I'd be pleasantly surprised.  

Maybe at the end of the series...Black Bolt dons his classic costume 
with the forehead antenna...raises his arms to reveal those badass scalloped wings and takes to the skies....leaving me anticipating the next season.

But it looks like that won't be happening.  




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@Michael

You make a distinction between Marvel Studios and Marvel Television?

I don't.  

They sold me on "It's all connected" so that's where I operate. 

In my mind Rocket and Groot are a writer's key stroke away from fighting alongside Coulson and Daisy.  Daredevil is fighting in Hell's Kitchen and our young Spider-Man is learning his web swinging in Queens.

The fact that they can't meld all aspects of the MCU together more often and with purpose is something I have learned to accept long ago.
 
So to me if it says 'Marvel's Inhumans" and it fails...then that a failure for Marvel Studios because they put their name on it without making it clear there are different 'wings' of the MCU.


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You make a distinction between Marvel Studios and Marvel Television?

I don't.  
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Well, they do.  They're run by two different people.  Who haven't been getting along lately.  And Inhumans in particular was a bone of contention.

Plus the 'Marvel' logo also occurs ahead of Fox's movies and shows, ala Gifted and Legion.  That doesn't make them Marvel Studios products.
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Posted: 26 September 2017 at 11:24am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

You make a distinction between Marvel Studios and Marvel Television? 

I don't.  

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Doesn't matter if you or I make that distinction. /They/ do. Or have you not noticed this bit of territory marking in front of the most recent films?

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Fox (X-Men, FF and whatever else they own the rights to) isn't the MCU/Marvel Studios. 

So lets not take it that far.  We both know the difference there.

I am referring to the creative cohesion between all the MCU: Marvel Studios/Marvel Television/Netflix efforts.  

I am fully aware that there is a rift between the TV side and the movie side.  But the ENTIRE spiel about the MCU as established by Marvel Studios itself is that IT'S ALL CONNECTED.  

Regardless of the real life technicalities....Spider-Man, Daredevil, Groot, Hulk, Odin, the Celestials, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Coulson, Pepper Potts, Thanos, Ant-Man, Danny Rand, Dormamuu, and all the rest exist TOGETHER under the MCU big banner.  

When Inhumans on TV fucks up so badly it takes great characters like Black Bolt and Medusa out of the mix.  Which is why I wished the show had never been seen so The Inhumans could have a chance (however slight) to be a functional and exciting piece of the ever expanding puzzle.  

So whatever barriers that are currently keeping the TV shows from meshing deeper with the movies is strengthened with its failure.

  
  
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But the ENTIRE spiel about the MCU as established by Marvel Studios itself is that IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

Well, no. The entire spiel about the MCU by Marvel Studios is that all their films are connected. Marvel Television's spiel is that it's connected to the MCU. There's a distinction there.


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When Inhumans on TV fucks up so badly it takes great characters like Black Bolt and Medusa out of the mix.  Which is why I wished the show had never been seen so The Inhumans could have a chance (however slight) to be a functional and exciting piece of the ever expanding puzzle.

Personally, the Inhumans only work for me when they are part of an FF story. As long as Marvel can't use the FF, I don't think they should use the Inhumans.

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Marvel Television began with an entire series built around an Avengers supporting character.  Agents of SHIELD featuring reoccurring MOVIE character Phil Coulson.

And entire story arc of Agents of SHIELD was all about explaining why Coulson was still alive to be in AOS when we saw him die in Avengers.

You can play with the words any way you want, but when Agents of SHIELD debuted it did so thinking that its connection to the Avengers would be part of the appeal.  Sif from Thor and Nick Fury had cameos. The Coulson gang got the Hellicarrier ready for Nick Fury to use in the big civilian rescue in Age Of Ultron.  Almost an entire season of AOS was connected to Captain America: Winter Soldier. Plus tons of other little clues that link not only the movies but the Netflix and ABC stuff as well.   So it's clear that Marvel TV and Marvel Movies are related.  

The fact that things flow easier in one direction is a man made issue.  Not a creative one.

And as much as I'd love to see the FF bring in the Inhumans, a clever writer could bring them into the MCU in its current state quite easily without the FF.  The Kree are already in place.  The AOS gang could take the place of the FF...if you wanted to keep it all in the TV side of things.  

AOS gave us the concept of the Inhumans.  It wouldn't take much to up the ante with the Royal Family.   The more I think about it the more obvious that it was a big mistake to debut the Inhumans on TV separated from the groundwork laid by AOS.  Just as it was a mistake to put the show in the hands of Scott Buck.  Jed Whedon and the folks behind AOS should have been made responsible for Inhumans.  They would have done a much better job.  

But the IP is pretty damaged right now.  It might never see the light of day again.  At least not on their own.


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Posted: 26 September 2017 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | 24 post reply

....sigh....

LEGO seems to 'get' Inhumans...

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Pretty slick.
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