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Robbie Parry
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I'll include this here:

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It is a fine idea that families with children could be aboard the Enterprise as it soared through space on peaceful missions. But I feel the reality is that a starship with weapons that can devastate a planet is NOT a place for civilians... simply because, as nature seems to bear out, sooner or later those weapons will be needed and subsequently used.

The "Wagon Train" feel with families is a great thing, and it was, as far as I know, representative of what happened in the 19th century. But those groups were looking for land to homestead, not to hunt or fight. The hunters went solo, or in miliitiae, whether they were hunting food or "Injuns" (yes, it wasn't right, but I'm not speaking of morals here; just the situation at hand.) And as I understand it, the pioneers were NOT the first ones out there; the surveyors and explorers were, with plenty of protection.

To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilization; to boldly go where no man has gone before. These all sound as if they could be peaceful occurrences, and one would wish that for the Enterprise. But starships were also a sort of constabulary, not to mention coast guard type protection and guarding, and encounters with new life and new civilizations who were hostile kinda implied that families wouldn't be so safe.

That's not to say that a perfectly good series that literally was "Wagon Train to the Stars", with homesteading (planetsteading?) groups wouldn't have been quite entertaining; but that wasn't really the purpose of the Enterprise.
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Here's a cake:


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To celebrate, I've watched a lot of random TOS episodes this weekend:
"Metamorphosis", "Arena", "Balance of Terror", "The Trouble With
Tribbles" (back-to-back with DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations"), "The
Doomsday Machine", "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "The
Menagerie" so far. Also, I picked up a new copy of STAR TREK II: THE
WRATH OF KHAN of my very own (my family back in WV has a VHS
copy.). It occurs to me that maybe I should watch "Space Seed" next.
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This is worth a read:

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Some serious stretching there, to get to those "records."

And since when is STAR TREK an "adaptation"?

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That article also says the franchise was rebooted in 2013 with "Star Trek Into Darkness." I don't think the author was really paying much attention to his work that day.

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Sadly, this is something I have found almost every time the Fourth Estate has come anywhere near my work or me. The "reporters" arrive with their stories already written, requiring only out-of-context sound bytes to add color, and attention to such trivial things as facts is but a minor consideration.
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I'm with you, guys. I found the article interesting - i.e. the STAR TREK maze - but "adaptation" is absolutely unbelievable. 

Anyone reading that might go looking for comics or books they believe predated the series. And they won't find them.
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By the way, I cannot believe I am saying this, but I choose my lottery numbers via stardates. :/

Stardate for "Encounter at Farpoint" is 41153.7

So I choose 41, 15 and 3 if I play the 3-number game that I choose. I know I could have chosen 4, 11 and 5, but I do it the way I do it. Odd, I know. 
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By the way, I cannot believe I am saying this, but I choose my lottery numbers via stardates. :/

If we are 'fessing up, 1701 has featured in pretty much every password, PIN or passcode I have ever used... in some guise or other
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Watching "Charlie X" tonight...

What a superb guest performance from Robert Walker, Jr., one of the best!


Plus, next week's episode:

WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE




Edited by Shaun Barry on 15 September 2016 at 8:19pm
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If we are 'fessing up, 1701 has featured in pretty much every password, PIN or passcode I have ever used... in some guise or other.
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(raises hand)


...guilty.
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So, that's the numbers of your passwords sorted then. Please tell me the symbols are not @
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Tonight: "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (Sept. 22, 1966)

Pilot #2, yet the 3rd episode broadcast... one of the great Season One eps. Engrossing sci-fi drama, with particularly solid performances from guest stars Sally Kellerman and Gary Lockwood. One I never get tired of watching.

(Next week: THE NAKED TIME )


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If we are 'fessing up, 1701 has featured in pretty much every password, PIN or passcode I have ever used... in some guise or other.
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(raises hand)


...guilty.
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hahaha what others would see as tragic, I see as magnificent
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Tonight's episode: "The Naked Time" (Sept. 29, 1966)

Another classic, fun episode, though maybe less-and-less convincing, science-wise, the more you look at it and try to pick it apart. But no worries, still a 1st Season keeper!

Next week: THE ENEMY WITHIN
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Tonight's episode: "The Naked Time" (Sept. 29, 1966)

Another classic, fun episode, though maybe less-and-less convincing, science-wise, the more you look at it and try to pick it apart. But no worries, still a 1st Season keeper!

Next week: THE ENEMY WITHIN

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I think you should have waited until next week to play that "less scientifically convincing" card. "The Naked Time" is really about the crew getting drunk on alien chemicals. "The Enemy Within" is about the transporter being magic!

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"The Enemy Within" certainly qualifies as more of a fantasy episode, but I was struck this time by how much stuff was jam-packed into "The Naked Time"... trying to cure the alien chemical/"space madness"; blast out of orbit using a cold-fusion theory (never having been tried!); and getting sent 3 days into the past, for me, strained the suspension of disbelief to almost the breaking point. The 19-minute countdown didn't help sell the believability, either!

But again, no matter, 'cause it was all in good fun. I'm old enough to recognize it was stretching credibility, but not so much of a Trekkie nit-picker that it hampered my enjoyment... just something I was more aware of, this time around. Still a great, fun episode!


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…blast out of orbit using a cold-fusion theory…

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That's not what they do. The technobabble in the episode is all about mixing matter and antimatter "cold". It's not cold-fusion in any sense.

Important to remember, here, that for the duration of TOS, the Enterprise was basically a muscle car. Altho the speeds were measured in "warp factors," there was no real sense that space was being "warped" in any way. The ship was just going really fast, and all consequences of such acceleration were ignored.

So what Spock and Scotty engineered in "The Naked Time" was a big ol' boost to the thrusters, accomplished by doing something with the matter and antimatter they were "not really supposed to."

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(I had a feeling I was getting the techno-talk wrong, even as I was typing it... I stand corrected!)


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TANGENT: Regarding warp factors, the pilot episode referred to them as time warp factors. Maybe they were referring to warping time rather than space?

I mean, you can make the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs - but it could make a huge difference if it takes three days or 12 hours.

The relationship between time and distance is what we refer to as speed - but if either of those two measurements can be modified, so can the speed.

Just more technobabble, I suppose, but it seems to me worth consideration...
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The first pilot specifically refers to the "time barrier" having been broken. That didn't last long. Perhaps Roddenberry didn't want potential viewers thinking the ship was a literal time machine -- which, of course, is just what it eventually became!
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To touch on this again...

As most of you probably know my favorite science-fiction novel is CITY AT WORLD'S END by Edmond Hamilton. There, a small midwestern town is hit with a "super-atomic" bomb. This shatters the spacetime continuum and hurls the town millions of years into the Future.

When I first started watching STAR TREK I knew at once what those "warp speeds" were all about. The incredible release of energy was "warping" space, so the ship lept from one point to another. But somehow, they were also traveling thru "warp space" at high speeds, so they were still able to have destroyer/submarine style fights while at "warp speed."

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I guess I have a book to check out in the coming days. Hope it still holds up.
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