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Petter Myhr Ness
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Posted: 10 March 2017 at 5:47am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Sorry, but the fact that the Big Bads have all had something to do with speed affects me far less than how those characters actually manifest regardless of their powers.
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You're absolutely right, Matt. And I guess that's another thing that's been nagging me deep down; Savitar doesn't come near to being as compelling as Wells/Reverse-Flash from the first season.

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Posted: 10 March 2017 at 8:01am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

 Matt Reed wrote:
Eh, can't agree with you, Dave.  Sorry.

I need to get my wife to join the board so there'll be someone who agrees with me... It's lonely out here...

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I think you're being far too harsh on Wally.  He's, what, 18? 19 maybe?  Nothing he's done with that as the lens makes him "irredeemable as a heroic character".  Far too hyperbolic from where I'm sitting.  Ditto your comments about Iris, but to each their own.


To be fair, I said "running the risk," meaning if they continue for a few more episodes with Wally acting out like that, it'd be over that line. There's still a chance!  Bear in mind, I WANT to like this show.  I LOVED it in season one, where it usually beat out AoS in my personal derby.  Now I think AoS is one for the ages and The Flash has just been running in circles (lousy pun thoroughly intended).
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I hate having an evil speedster every season. The Flash's nickname should really be "One of the Fastest Men Alive....but not the fastest."!
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Last night's Flash was the musical episode. I want to call it a crossover episode, but it wasn't really. Both Barry and Kara were in it, in pretty full roles, and I enjoyed it a lot. But it wasn't a Flash/Supergirl team-up... the two heroes didn't really show up, and I think we never saw Supergirl use ANY of her powers (well, except being an excellent singer.)

Five songs... I guess that makes a musical. Most importantly, I noted that Kara got one song, Barry got one song, and they dueted on "You're My Super Friend" and I damn near wet myself on that, it was so much fun. It took me back to the rule for "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" - Disney and Warner characters got the same amount of screen time.

As for Music Meister - what the ever lovin' hell? Was he supposed to be Amazo? For being a music master (I knows my German! :P ), he didn't do anything with music - just performed one song (really nicely, I must admit.) Instant hypnosis, Flash's speed, Supergirl's strength and heat vision... oh, and teleporting (at the easiest explanation.) My only guess was that he was from Earth-Prime... I mean, who else would be aware of both Supergirl's and Flash's romantic travails, and want them both to have happy endings?

I was amazed at the number of REMARKABLE singers in the DC TVU. My God, that Malcom Merlyn has a set of pipes... he missed his calling! Ditto for Winn and Cisco.

If you're a Flash or Supergirl fan, the episode isn't bad, although off the beaten path (not a bad thing.) If you're a fan of music, it's GREAT.

Still, I would like a little more from a "two part" episode than thirty-eight seconds at the end of Supergirl, and most of the action taking place in Flash. It happened here, as it happened in Invasion.

If this shows up again, don't miss it; it hits the right note.


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The best part of this episode for me was being able to fast-forward 90% of it and erase it quickly, since I'm running low on DVR space. 
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Posted: 22 March 2017 at 5:24am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

My God, that Malcom Merlyn has a set of pipes... he missed his calling!

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John Barrowman was a highly acclaimed musical theater star and recording artist long before he did TV.

The DC shows are strangely loaded with musical theater talent, for sure, though: Melissa Benoist, Jesse L. Ferguson, Laura Benanti, Jeremy Jordan, Ciera Renee, Grant Gustin all have serious MT chops.

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Assume you mean Jesse L. Martin. Victor Garber and Carlos Valdes (Cisco) also have musical theater backgrounds. Doing a musical episode almost seems a natural considering the pedigree of so many of the actors. Found it to be oddly one of the more enjoyable episodes although the villain seemed to be more of a plot device than a character. There's no real background as to who he is, how he knows what he knows, what he's after, what and where do his powers come from... At first I assumed that he would be Abrakadabra (it fit all the questions), but that's next week.

Found it interesting that the son of Malcolm's doppelganger was also named "Tommy".

Liked that the episode advanced the relationship downers of the previous Flash and Supergirl episodes so we don't have them bemoaning their self-sabotaged relationships for the rest of the season.
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 QUOTE:
Found it to be oddly one of the more enjoyable episodes
although the villain seemed to be more of a plot device than a
character. There's no real background as to who he is, how he knows
what he knows, what he's after, what and where do his powers come
from...


I'm just deciding that he's a Fifth Dimensional imp from Earth-1. The
character is too weird otherwise.


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Found it interesting that the son of Malcolm's doppelganger
was also named "Tommy".


Too bad they had to deal with the Romeo/Juliet subplot with the Mon-El
and Iris stand-ins, because it would've been an opportunity to bring
back Colin Donnell, another Broadway star.
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Whoops, wrong Jesse L. The dangers of typing on autopilot! Thanks. (And how could I forget Victor Garber!)

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"The Music Meister" originated in the BRAVE AND THE BOLD cartoon a few years back, where he was also pretty much just a plot device (voiced there by Neil Patrick Harris, without the 'stealing powers' thing).
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I also would have thought if Barry and Kara are into movies and recognize that they are in a version of "West Side Story" which is a version of Romeo & Juliet, that they would also recognize how the plot goes ie confessing to the respective fathers would not work, they're in a musical but it's a tragedy!
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Definitely one of the more enjoyable episodes in a long while - it's telling that the show gets much more energetic when Melissa Benoist drops by. But it also broke Candace Patton out of her weep of the week and showed how badly the writers treat her - she was great as the gangster's daughter.  I could have used an entire episode of that.
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