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Brad Teschner
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The main "trilogy" movies deal with the Skywalkers. I really really hope that
these "anthology" movies steer clear of the Skywalkers entirely.
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The main "trilogy" movies deal with the Skywalkers. I really really hope that these "anthology" movies steer clear of the Skywalkers entirely.

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Hard to imagine them ignoring Vader, given the time frame. Especially as it would provide a CLASSIC X-MEN style means of retrofitting the retcons. ("See! He WASN'T just hired muscle!"}

Main thing I don't like, aside from the same-old-same-old aspect, is that we have this spunky young female character who is apparently going to step to the side and surrender that role to Leia. (Unless she turns out to BE Leia. Oy!) She is, by definition, a character who cannot really go anywhere.

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I am assuming Vadar is in this and will not be eager to see a requisite scene in which he struggles against the Dark Side, just to reinforce that is isn't REALLY all that bad.  
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Oh, how I HATE that stupid term. Has it now become impossible to
express even well-reasoned concerns about something without being
branded a "Hater"?
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That's the 'Net, for ya--everything has to be either The Best Ever or The
Worst Ever. It's "Bashers" vs. "Gushers", and "Lovers" vs. "Haters".
Middle-of-the-road opinions have no place.

As a preemptive measure, I was just trying to speak the language of
those who are gonna bash me for not immediately going ga-ga over
these movies. In discussions on other forums regarding TFA, people
jumped all over me for expressing well-reasoned criticisms. In today's
world. If you don't express either deep love or utter hatred for
something, you're gonna get taken to task. Sigh.

I have very mixed feelings about TFA, but people treated me as if I was
a "hater" for not totally loving it.
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(Unless she turns out to BE Leia. Oy!)

Could be. They're casting a young Han Solo...

...and it would explain Leia's vaguely British accent in STAR WARS (up until about the time "short stormtrooper" and "walking carpet" cracks begin...)


And she could still be Rey's mother.


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It's been rumored Vader is in this one BIG TIME and is supposed to have a couple of fight scenes.
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I thought the director said he might make a cameo, on a video screen perhaps. Disney'd be crazy not to include Vader. His presence would put even more asses in the seats.
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Part of the issue, I tbink, is just the Star Wars property.  When I watched Star Trek, I always believed there were other ships with other crews exploring other parts of the galaxy having their own, untold adventures.  The shows seemed to assume that.  So you could, in theory, spin off nearly infinitely in any given era.

Star Wars, on the other hand, was just the opposite.  The Galactic Civil War was pretty much all that was going on, and while there were undoubtedly battles we didn't see, the decisive ones, the turning points, were all on screen and revolved around this one group of characters.  The prequels, if anything, only made it more inbred by making everything from the origin of C-3PO to Kenobi's whole jedi career a function of the Skywalker family.

So, I don't know what options Disney has other than continuing the story and filling in the little gaps as they're doing.
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Here's a couple places that talk about Vader's role:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/s tar-wars-rogue-one-darth-vader-to-get-considerably-more-brut al-a6840016.html

http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/14766/20160130/darth-vade r-star-wars.htm

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Is it just me, or do all the Star Wars heroines look the same? 

Leia
Padme
Rey
Jyn

I'd laugh if Jyn turns out to be the mother or grandmother of Rey. Small galaxy, and all that. 
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Hopefully the rumors about Vader are true.  In no small part to repair the damage that Lucas himself did to the character in the prequels.  Watch EpIV by itself, and he's an iconic villain.  Seen in the context of the prequels, he's a smoking shell of his former self, and sort of a sad figure. <--Bad damage!

There doesn't seem to be any question Rogue One will be very well executed (looks well-shot and high-buck so far!), and while I do expect an unavoidable redemption arc for Jyn, I also hope we learn something new about that part of the story that enhances, rather than damages the opening of EpIV.  Yes, I think this is doable.  But so is the opposite (see above commentary on Vader).

I also hope the rumors about Vader are true because Star Wars without the Force is just ordinary Space Opera.  "Character Shields" could make the Imperials seem more hapless than dangerous as happened in EpIV, and some Magical opposition from Vader could shore up the opposition.  I'd say it's certainly helped in SW:Rebels!  Some judicious Dark Side could help make their task seem near impossible (sweetening any victory they glean).

A+ for a sparkly trailer, though!

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As someone who isn't nearly as invested in the OT as many in my age range and who was indifferent to the Prequels, I enjoyed TFA greatly.  I liked it more than at least four of the earlier films, which gives me high hopes for what's to come.

I think the trailer for ROGUE ONE looks great.  While I would like to see the SW films move away from the Skywalker saga -- and this looks no more than a half-step removed -- I don't think I'm looking for something different from a SW movie anymore than I would be looking for something different in a Batman comic book.  Ultimately I want the familiar, but done well.
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I'd agree with that, Thom. I think plenty of fans want to see something a little different, set in the STAR WARS universe, without tying everything together to the Trilogies, or the Skywalker and/or Solo clans, in a too-neat contrived package.

Because if that's the route they're going to take, then why make spin-offs at all?




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Awesome trailer!!  Very exciting!



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Hard to imagine them ignoring Vader, given the time frame.

I'd expect to see Vader, but moreso as the big baddie/force of nature threat
than the man behind the mask Vader introduced after the original Star Wars.
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My gut says the new character is Rey's mother. Outside of money, the
new prequels should add something to the new trilogy. If they don't then
this movie is completely useless. A fun and pretty to look at useless
movie to be sure, but I'm hoping for something more substantive.
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I don't see making Jyn Erso into Rey's mother at all a good idea. First
off, as I mentioned upthread it makes the universe a VERY small place.
Also...it kinda deflates the mystery of Rey's parentage being set up in
the new trilogy by having that question answered not only outside of the
main trilogy but also in the very first anthology movie out of the gate.
The Force Awakens made alot of money cashing in on nostalgia. I see
Rogue One taking that same approach...I don't see its connection to
the new trilogy (or lack thereof) as a problem.
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Here's a couple places that talk about Vader's role:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/s tar-wars-
rogue-one-darth-vader-to-get-considerably-more-brut al-a6840016.html

http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/14766/20160130/darth-vade r-star-
wars.htm

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SER: Yikes! Even more awful things that Vader can do and still wind up in
Jedi heaven if he just saves his own son from the evil emperor he wanted to
kill all along.
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of all things, that scene with the stormtroopers walking next to the tank really grabbed me. It looked like Star Wars, something I never thought while watching TFA
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I'd agree with that, Thom. I think plenty of fans want to see something a little different, set in the STAR WARS universe, without tying everything together to the Trilogies, or the Skywalker and/or Solo clans, in a too-neat contrived package.

Because if that's the route they're going to take, then why make spin-offs at all?

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It does seem like that is the future of the Anthology/Spin off films. Disney allegedly wants a Boba Fett spin off and a young Han Solo movie also. Basically filling in all the gaps they can to squeeze out as much money as they can from the old movies. I suppose the reasoning is to keep the focus on the trilogies (OT, PT and ST) and keep people buying the old movies as they go forward with the property. 


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It does seem like that is the future of the Anthology/Spin off films. Disney
allegedly wants a Boba Fett spin off and a young Han Solo movie also.
Basically filling in all the gaps they can to squeeze out as much money as
they can from the old movies.++++++++A Boba Fett and Han Solo movie?
Consider my money happily given.Not that I disagree with you, I'm sure that
Disney's motivation is to get money and not create exciting stories but I'm
still excited. I suppose the same argument could be made when Lois and
Jimmy got their own books but I loved those books as well.

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I think my main problem with the Rogue One trailer is that we're moving further afield from Star Wars' Space Opera roots.


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Thing is--the spin-offs would be a good place to experiment with
different subgenres of SW films--heist movies, spy movies, bounty
hunter movies, etc. The numbered films will presumably stick to the
familiar space opera stuff.
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Based on what I've seen so far… I'm there.
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New info regarding Rogue One.

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