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Stephen Churay
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Thumbing through my back issues, I ran into Marvel books I
picked up back in 2002. One month the company decided to
take their core titles and do a "Nuff Said" month. For
those that didn't get it, these were books that were
supposed to be pure art storytelling. No captions, no
dialogue. This really showed who had storytelling chops and
who didn't. Some had to resort to cheating. Some didn't
work at all, and some were just ok.
Then there are the two that John Jr. did, AMAZING SPIDER-
MAN and THE INCREDIBLE HULK. I knew as an artist, his
strength was storytelling, but my goodness.
These two books were fantastic. Looking through them for
the first time in ten years, I still believe that he's
probably the best graphic storyteller working today, and
maybe the best since Will Eisner.
If you don't own them go pick them up. They are amazing!
Does anybody have issues where dialogue or not, John Jr. or
not, the storytelling is just insanely well done? Also,does
anybody have a favorite John Jr. book that they feel has
great storytelling that I may have missed?
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Jess Sowerby
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It's been mentioned many times before but reading 'Armor Wars II' and i remember being amazed by how in sync the story and artwork were.John Romita Jr just knocked it out of the park especially in those battle scenes with Iron Man and DeWitt in his armour.
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Richard White
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One of the many baffling things I found on the internet was a lot of hatred towards his art. Up till then I'd always thought his art was pretty much universally loved.
My first exposure to his work was The Man Without Fear when it originally came out. I've been a huge fan since and have bought pretty much all that's available of his.
His Bob Layton Iron Man stuff is a bit disappointing though, as there's not much of JRjr's work to be seen.
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John Byrne
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At some point it became fashionable among the dimmer of the dim bulbs in fandom to declare how much they "hate" JR's work. Serving only to demonstrate what utter clods they are.
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Michael Penn
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Purely as a matter of personal taste, I don't always love what I see in John Romita, Jr's work, mostly having to do with how he renders faces. This is merely my own idiosyncrasy.
But as much as I -- not an artist, just a comicbook fan -- can judge the quality of his work, he's incredible. I mean, just look at this! |
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Greg Woronchak
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I loved his collaboration with Bob on Ironman back in the day, an interesting fusion of substance and style. My favorite remains his work with Roger Stern on Amazing Spider-Man... absolutely classic stuff.
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Peter Martin
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JR Jr was one of the first artists I gravitated to when I first started collecting Marvel comics seriously, which was around 1985. He was the penciller on Uncanny X-Men back then, of course, and I was a fan instantly. Really enjoyed the back issues of Amazing Spider-Man that I could find with his art. I ditched Starbrand once JR Jr left (sorry JB!) and Uncanny X-Men never felt the same once he left either. Enjoyed his work on Daredevil, but those few issues he did with JB on Iron Man really felt like a watershed -- like he'd fully realised his own style. It was brilliant.
Once again, I ditched Iron Man once he left (sorry JB, again!)
I sorted of slowly gravitated away from closely following comics in the years following that, but on the few occasions I have visited comic shops, he and JB are the artists whose work I look for most closely. |
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Richard White
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"I loved his collaboration with Bob on Ironman back in the day..."
I don't dislike the stuff, I think it's very good but I picked up the Omnibus that collects the work expecting the later style that I loved, which is just unique.
Some of the criticisms I saw, included that the art was "stiff", which is just not a conclusion I can understand someone coming to.
Edited by Richard White on 15 March 2016 at 7:09am
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Bill Collins
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I grew up on the Bob Layton inked,Michelinie scripted Iron Man,as with Jb/Claremont X-Men i think it`s your first exposure that maintains the nostalgia value.
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John Byrne
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I loved his collaboration with Bob on Ironman back in the day, an interesting fusion of substance and style.•• Yet all I saw was Johnny's work being obliterated.
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Wallace Sellars
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That Spider-Man art by JRJR is sweet!
If he keeps at it, he may even be as good as his ol' man someday!
(That's not a dig at Junior; I'm a huge fan of Senior's work.)
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Richard White
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"Yet all I saw was Johnny's work being obliterated."
So underneath Layton's inks, was JRJR drawing in his usual style?. I assumed that it was probably less pronounced as there isn't really a trace of his style to be found.
Edited by Richard White on 15 March 2016 at 8:15am
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