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Petter Myhr Ness
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This Newsarama article got me thinking about the success of recent comic book based movies, and how they change comics for (most part) the worse.
http://www.newsarama.com/22180-14-ways-marvel-movies-changed -marvel-comics.html
Adapting any medium into a movie is tricky. What works on the written, or drawn, page may not work as well on the big screen. We get it. But there's a difference between literal translation and being faithful to the source - the latter being vital to any successful transition, as I see it. Too many times I've seen movie producers throw the baby out with the bathwater. We get an "X-Men First Class" with only Beast of the actual first class as a founding member, we get Nick Fury looking like Sam Jackson*, organic web-shooters and etc. And they get away with it time and time again, as long as the movie is successful, because the major part of the audience simply don't read comics. And comic readers are stuck with the short end of the stick.
I'm not sure if the writer of the article thinks these changes are for the better or not, but there's certainly no outcry about how long-serving characters are being short-changed in the process.
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* Yes, I know it started in the comics - but in the Ultimates, which desperately tried to imitate a big movie.
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Harri Jokinen
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Comics have done it to itself with its endless wave of reboots and alternate reality versions. If even the comic versions don't stay faithful to the originals, how can we expect adaptations to do that?
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Steve De Young
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Comics have done it to itself with its endless wave of reboots and alternate reality versions.
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Frankly, the Marvel movies these days are closer to the classic comics than the current comics are. If you pick up a Marvel comic today:
- Captain America is the Falcon. With wings and the shield
- Iron Man is in a glowing blue armor suit
- Thor is female
- There are six or seven Avengers titles, none of which feature Cap, Thor, Iron Man, and others teaming up together. You might get one or two of those characters per title in their current unrecognizable versions
- Magneto is the hero of his own title
- Cyclops is a villain
- Wolverine is dead
- Spider-Man, depending on the title you grab, may be a Black kid
- Or a Hispanic guy from the year 2099
- There are three female characters with spider powers who currently have their own series from Marvel, one of whom is Gwen Stacy
- The Hulk looks like the Hulk, but is a super-genius at war with the Red Hulk.
I could go on and on...as off model as some of the movies are, the current comics are way worse. Even a relatively old-school book like Daredevil currently features a more happy-go-lucky version of the character living in San Francisco...a far cry from the Miller version in Hell's Kitchen about to be presented in the TV show.
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Brian Miller
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Gwen Stacy??
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Kip Lewis
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Alternate reality Gwen Stacy.
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Steve De Young
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Ah, you're unfamiliar with Spider-Gwen (yes, that's the actual name of the monthly...)
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Carmen Bernardo
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(Me putting my face on the keyboard here.)
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Philippe Negrin
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I like the hood ! But why don't they simply create a new character ?????
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Philippe Negrin
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And she appears to have another bonus power = To turn her square chin into a dangerously pointy one whenever needed...
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Brian Hague
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Good golly gumbucks... what won't they think of next...?
The hood is a nice visual touch. Just as it was on DC's revised Superwoman character a few years back during the New Krypton storyline.
Have we now actually reached the point where every single supporting character with any history at Marvel or DC has either acquired super-powers or a super-powered variant? Has Liz Allen been a Goblin yet or a Molten Woman?
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Ronald Joseph
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Have we now actually reached the point where every single supporting character with any history at Marvel or DC has either acquired super-powers or a super-powered variant?
Speaking of...anyone remember The Crazy Eight?!
At one point, Wonder Man's entire supporting cast acquired powers and became this "team."
That was actually a rather fun title. I'm going to have to dig them out and re-read it.
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David Miller
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Wait, there's 12 of them...
Is it like the Crazy 88 in Kill Bill? "I guess they thought it sounded cool."
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