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Andrew W. Farago
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I guess he'll be the focal point for the Civil War storyline.  As long as they stick with the broader point of him being a civilian vigilante who isn't affiliated with the Avengers (and doesn't want to be), Spidey makes sense in a story built around whether or not it's a good idea to have "unauthorized" superheroes running around. 

A teenage Spider-Man screwing up in a battle with a supervillain could totally work as a starting point for Civil War.  His mistake could result in Yankee Stadium getting leveled (during the offseason, and at night, with zero casualties or injuries), and the national discussion would be about the fact that this costumed kid caused about a billion dollars in property damage before swinging away to catch Kraven the Hunter, without a care in the world.

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ANDREW: I guess he'll be the focal point for the Civil
War storyline. As long as they stick with the broader
point of him being a civilian vigilante who isn't
affiliated with the Avengers (and doesn't want to be),
Spidey makes sense in a story built around whether or
not it's a good idea to have "unauthorized" superheroes
running around.

SER: This reminds me that in the Marvel films, the
heroes are all public with their identities and work
closely with the government. Spider-Man is a perfect
foil for that -- especially if they avoid the disastrous
misstep in the comics of having Spider-Man unmask to the
world.

You could have a new hero who keeps his identity secret
and the split comes on whether to force him to reveal
himself to the authorities. In this scenario, it would
make sense for Stark to support disclosure (as he
brazenly went public with his own identity) while
Captain America would perhaps support an individual's
right to choose to fight the good fight in private.

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Spider-Man hasn't been amazing since, oh the early nineties. Why? Well basically due to bad handling by Marvel or the then present incarnation of Marvel.
When the animated series hit the screen it drew from what was happening in the comics at that time ie Peter/Mary Jane and mixed up old plots with new and it was fun if not factually incorrect. 
Then came Raimis movies which sort of continued from the animated series, again Peter and Mj only to throw Gwen in at the eleventh hour. 
The comics went through similar turbulent plots and Civil War was a kind of modern day Clone saga. Spider-Man s ultimate role was gob smacking to say the least and resolution of said plot was the pits. 

My advice to the writer's/creators of future movies? Read the first 100 issues of amazing. Spideys a solo act. He ain't no Avenger.
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I wonder if Marvel Studios already have a script ready in anticipation of working out a deal with Sony? After all, they have been trying to work something out for some time now.
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This deal wasn't just made on the fly yesterday, so I bet they have something in place already, in terms of knowing what they want to do with Spidey. I bet they even already know who they want to play the role.
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The national discussion would be about the fact that this costumed kid caused about a billion dollars in property damage before swinging away to catch Kraven the Hunter, without a care in the world. 
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No offense, but I would really hate to see something like that. I don't like the idea of attaching such a huge and lasting repercussion to the actions of any super hero, let alone a relatively street level one like Spider-Man.
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Now that we got our wish, I'm very curious how Marvel will reboot Spiderman and make him better than past iterations. I liked Toby and Andrew, and I was fine with all the movie themselves (except for Emo Spidey). I am bummed they pushed back the other Marvel movies though. As much as Spiderman is an integral part of the MU, I'm more interested in the Inhumans movie.

On a side note, someone clarify something for me. All the media says the next Cap is titled Civil War, yet I know I saw an announcement video where Kevin F. said the next Cap movie would be Serpent Society. Anyone know how that happened?


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No offense, but I would really hate to see something like that. I don't like the idea of attaching such a huge and lasting repercussion to the actions of any super hero, let alone a relatively street level one like Spider-Man.

Just throwing that out there as an option.  Any number of ways to bring Spider-Man into the mix.  He could catch some small-fry criminal that the Avengers were hoping would lead them to a more major threat, he could capture some guy that had previously escaped Iron Man, he could lose a fight with Electro and cause a city-wide blackout...as long as they stay far, far away from the whole unmasking storyline, it'll work.
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I'm with you that unmasking should be avoided like the plague. And a city-wide blackout sounds pretty good!
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The next Spider-Man movie should NOT take a page from MAN OF STEEL!!!

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Is it wrong of me to now have even a glimmer of hope that, one day, the Fantastic Four will find themselves home?
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Now that we got our wish

Who is "we?" I certainly wasn't wishing for this.

My best case scenario involved Marvel getting the movie rights to Spider-Man back and then waiting a little while and not attaching him in any way, shape, or form to the Avengers. Post credits scene to show a shared universe? Fine. But then just keep him in his corner of that universe.

In fact - here's an idea for a post credits scene:

An extreme closeup of a Daily Bugle headline about the Avengers' most recent adventure/battle/win/whatever. As we pull back, we rotate the camera 180 degrees to show Spider-Man reading the paper while hanging upside down. He makes some witty quip about missing all the fun or something, only before shooting a web line and swinging off.   


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Don't worry, Rich, at this rate, the next reboot of the FF should be announced at the premiere of this year's upcoming reboot.

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I think having the FF, Galactus and Doctor Doom back at Marvel Studios would be more important in fleshing out the shared universe than having Spidey in it, but Sony and Disney have shown an ability to compromise on the licensing deal even before this, whereas Fox and Disney/Marvel just don't seem to get along.
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On a side note, someone clarify something for me. All the media says
the next Cap is titled Civil War, yet I know I saw an announcement
video where Kevin F. said the next Cap movie would be Serpent
Society. Anyone know how that happened?

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SERPENT SOCIETY was a gag placeholder that they had up there
until they could bring out Chris Evans and RDJ on stage to announce
that RDJ would be in Cap 3 and the title of the movie was CIVIL WAR.
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Sony has put out five Spider-Man films. Out of all of them, the truck
chase with Paul Giamatti at the beginning of ASM2 is the only time I
felt like I was actually watching Spider-Man. Marvel getting the
agreement to me can't be a bad thing. It may not be a great thing, but
it can't be bad.

My only hope is that there's a Phase Four and they can get the FF if
this so called FF film with its naked Thing, three people dressed in
Laser Tag gear and Jiffy Pop Doom tanks.   
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Thanks, Stephen... "Jiffy Pop Doom" was my biggest laugh of the day!!

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If FF did land back at Marvel. I have one word to say to Marvel, GALACTUS.
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When FF land back at Marvel, I hope they take big chunks of JB's FF stories to shape Phase 4 and 5. After all, Jim Starlin's work shaped most of Phase 2 and 3.
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They must do Spider-Man right this time: bring back JK Simmons as JJJ! 
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JK Simmons was perfect casting.
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 Ronald Joseph wrote:
here's an idea for a post credits scene:

An extreme closeup of a Daily Bugle headline about the Avengers' most recent adventure/battle/win/whatever. As we pull back, we rotate the camera 180 degrees to show Spider-Man reading the paper while hanging upside down. He makes some witty quip about missing all the fun or something, only before shooting a web line and swinging off.   


 

That would be a great sequence.  I don't want Spider-Man in these Avenger films because there was never a development for him.  Also, I've hated his addition to the Avengers- -it's bloat - - I think Spider-Man is a loner or should be a loner fighting crime his own way.

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Also, I've hated his addition to the Avengers- -it's bloat - - I think Spider-Man is a loner or should be a loner fighting crime his own way.

Yep. I just don't think it works at all.

I specifically remember an Avengers issue where Captain America told him he wasn't cut out for the team because he was a loner (or something along those lines). Wolverine, as well - solo or with the X-Men.
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I don't see how this will work. I don't want the character joining the Avengers, but having him pop up in forced cameos seems like an act of shameless desperation.
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I don't see how this will work. I don't want the character joining the Avengers, but having him pop up in forced cameos seems like an act of shameless desperation.

Why wouldn't it work?  The Marvel Universe has a looooooong history of guest appearances and crossovers.  Introducing Spider-Man into a movie doesn't have to be any more complicated than introducing the Falcon or the Black Widow into a movie.
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