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Erin Anna Leach
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Oddly I have this mental image of Susan Storm with her hair up in Princess Leia buns saying " Help me John Byrne. You're my only hope. "
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John Byrne
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Remember when the Fantastic Four was AWESOME and it was Marvel's flagship title?!?•• That tapered off somewhere around issue 100, didn't it?
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Marc Cheek
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That tapered off somewhere around issue 100, didn't it?
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I would argue that it was issue 293, but that's just me... ;^)
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Andrew W. Farago
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I loved Walt Simonson's run on the book, and issues couldn't come out fast enough when he was writing and drawing it. (And getting Art Adams to fill in for three issues was a pretty great idea, too.)
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Matt Hawes
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Brad Hague wrote:
...Remember when the Fantastic Four was AWESOME and it was Marvel's flagship title?!?
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John Byrne wrote:
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It did, but it bounced back again for many of us around #232, and didn't taper off again until #293.
It was Stan/Jack's issues, and JB's issues that make the Fantastic Four may favorite team. I have seen how great they can be. Sadly, almost nobody else seems to know how to properly handle those characters.
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Doug Centers
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An older neighbor boy had back issues from the early seventies that I enjoyed at the time, I even liked them better than the issues I was buying new in the mid seventies. So it seemed to have been a gradual decline ,first Kirby left then Stan stopped writing them a while later.
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David Ferguson
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And now writers aren't allowed create new X-men:
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Charles Valderrama
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This morning at NYCC, the Marvel panel included two teases - the end of the Fantastic Four, and a picture of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver with the phrase "No More Mutants."
More "evidence" that the company wanted to distance themselves from those properties. Pretty sad state of the business.
-C!
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Mike Benson
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Thankfully there were creative teams who understood the pure and simple concepts that made the title great. Adventure. Family. Tragedy. Triumph. Fun. And they made the stories timeless. I get to revisit any time I want.
I mourned a long time ago. Now it's nothing but fond memories.
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Greg Woronchak
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The things I've read about the new movie (and perhaps sales of the monthly, although I have nothing to back me up) suggests that the family adventurers dynamic might not work with today's jaded, video-game 'readership'.
I think the concept works beautifully aimed at an all-ages demographic. It doesn't need to be hip or grim (bad pun), just bursting with imagination and excitement, like Stan & Jack (and JB) demonstrated.
Edited by Greg Woronchak on 11 October 2014 at 11:06am
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Carmen Bernardo
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I seem to recall the the FF had about a decade of so-so issues behind them when JB came back on board as the writer/artist. There were a few good stretches, but a lot of it was just silly. Good artwork by John Buscema, George Perez and Rich Buckler (under Joe Sinnott's inks) was what drew me in. That last run with Bill Sienkewicz was nice lead-in to Byrne.
I'm kind of neutral on the FF as they are now. The characters are basically unrecognizeable, and that's because of all the monkeying around that's been done in the past 20 years or so. The last thing I recall seeing was this whole parallel universes thing with the Richards kids and a couple of mutant orphans. It just didn't feel like the FF that I knew.
Frankly, I'm not trusting the current editorial and creative teams on Marvel enough to want to give it another run.
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Brad Brickley
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I'm just amazed that Marvel signed off on such lousy deals with Sony and Fox that they can never end. I'm not sure exactly the companies situation then, but I'm thinking Disney wishes it wasn't so now.
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